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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2011, 12:03:09 PM »
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I'm just not ready to rush to conviction yet.
Not a rush to conviction -- but an arrest occasionally in cases like this would be refreshing.
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2011, 12:32:06 PM »
. . . she wasn't arrested for videorecording, she was arrested for refusing to comply with the officer's directives.

Exactly WHEN did police get the power to order people around when they're standing on their own property and are NOT themselves the subject of a warrant, subpoena, or hot pursuit? News flash: Police necessarily have legitimate authority, but THEY ARE NOT OUR LORDS AND MASTERS, AND IT'S ABOUT TIME SOME WERE REMINDED OF IT.

Chris, she was on her own property, committing no crime.  She did not jump in the middle of things. 
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2011, 01:36:22 PM »
Alright.  I quit this one.  I had a bad day yesterday, which I may post about later.  I'll end by saying that I'm not ready to make a judgment on this one yet.  facts may end up showing you all were right.  But, in light of what happened to me yesterday, and the follow up today, I'm going to say that I am in no mood to argue about whether or not a cop has a right to feel safe doing his job.  I thought I did, but maybe not...
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2011, 04:19:16 PM »
Alright.  I quit this one.  I had a bad day yesterday, which I may post about later.  I'll end by saying that I'm not ready to make a judgment on this one yet.  facts may end up showing you all were right.  But, in light of what happened to me yesterday, and the follow up today, I'm going to say that I am in no mood to argue about whether or not a cop has a right to feel safe doing his job.  I thought I did, but maybe not...
Yeah, the cop looked real worried about his safety.   ;/

More like pissed off that some peasant had the audacity to refuse to obey his unlawful order.

I don't think cops have any more right to feel safe than anyone else -- and it is not a threat to anyone's safety to stand in your yard videotaping them, to stand behind them, to say mean things to them, or to express what they believe to be "anti-police" views.

On the other hand, it IS threatening to a person's safety to come onto their property without permission, physically assault them, and kidnap them. 

Here's an "anti-police" comment for you -- I wish someone had been there to defend the victim from those aggressors.  That is unfortunately the only way that justice is likely to be done in a case like this. 
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2011, 05:09:38 PM »
Good place to use one of The Law's  favorite lines on them,    " If you have nothing to hide, why can't we search your car/house/person".

If the LEO in question had nothing to hide,  why the fear of video record?

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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2011, 06:59:51 AM »
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2011, 09:31:02 AM »
What did us sawed off types do to get you to lump us in with tyrants? =D

Heh.

The stature I refer to is metaphorical.

Good place to use one of The Law's  favorite lines on them,    " If you have nothing to hide, why can't we search your car/house/person".

If the LEO in question had nothing to hide,  why the fear of video record?

More heh.
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2011, 10:17:29 AM »
People like her are routinely called all kinds of insulting names on this board.


The COTUS and BOR is valid for dumbazzes, too.


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Charges Against Emily Good Dropped
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2011, 03:44:30 PM »
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/548242/charges-against-emily-good-dropped/

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It took less than a minute for a judge to dismiss an obstructing governmental administration charge against Good, saying there was no legal basis to move forward.

Good was arrested last month while videotaping a traffic stop outside her Rochester home. She was taken into custody after Good failed to go inside her home when ordered to by Rochester police officer Mario Masic.

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"I strongly believe that the traffic stop that precipitated Miss Good's arrest was consistent with my emphasis on assertive, proactive policing," said Sheppard. "I support the involved officer's initiative."

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Sheppard says there will be an internal review into the original videotaped incident as well as one last week where police officers wrote five tickets outside a meeting supporting Good, using rulers to measure distance from the curb.

Mario Masic:
Remember the names of the oath-breakers who demonstrate they have no intention of defending the COTUS.  Maybe even tell them what you think, if you encounter them in your day-to-day lives, as they'll get no sanction from their department.

Also, keep an eye on them, as they have demonstrated they are not as good as their word.

Then, there are his buddies who went out of their way to go after supporters of the woman Masic wronged.
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2011, 04:02:17 PM »
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It took less than a minute for a judge to dismiss an obstructing governmental administration charge against Good, saying there was no legal basis to move forward.
IANAL, but can this judge's "no legal basis" statement be used in a lawsuit against the badged goon and his department?

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Locust Club President Mike Mazzeo says he'll lobby for changes in the law to protect officers and allow them to do the job for which they are trained.
"We have people with agendas out there and we can't allow these agendas to, God forbid, allow one of our officers or another individual to get hurt," said Mazzeo. "That's the issue." Mazzeo says he disagrees with the need for an internal investigation into Good's arrest.
Locust Club - is that the police union? Named for a repulsive, damaging insect? And an arrest with no legal basis should NOT be investigated?

This Mazzeo sounds like someone (in addtion to Mario Masic) who bears watching in the future . . .
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2011, 04:08:29 PM »
It's NY. Most of the posts on that Cops Writing Cops website were from NY and NJ, weren't they? Outside of Chicago and NOLA I'm not sure there are two more generally corrupt cops orgs than NY and its developmentally disabled cousin NJ.
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2011, 04:19:25 PM »
It's NY. Most of the posts on that Cops Writing Cops website were from NY and NJ, weren't they? Outside of Chicago and NOLA I'm not sure there are two more generally corrupt cops orgs than NY and its developmentally disabled cousin NJ.
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Re: Rochester police arrest woman for video taping them
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2011, 05:13:47 PM »
It's NY. Most of the posts on that Cops Writing Cops website were from NY and NJ, weren't they? Outside of Chicago and NOLA I'm not sure there are two more generally corrupt cops orgs than NY and its developmentally disabled cousin NJ.

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