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I want...
« on: August 09, 2011, 12:20:07 AM »
...this door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzZFUcxma1A

Brings a happy tear to my eye to watch so many masked "heroes" get stopped cold.

It's not an American raid... but we aren't terribly different any more anyways.

We The People need to raise the bar. 

"An [American's] home is his castle."  --Jason Russell
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 12:39:49 AM »
I'd like to know what was holding that door shut. Latches into the floor and top of the frame? Big, heavy object behind it?

Otherwise, I'm wondering if the entry team had proper tools, or had any idea how to break in to a door.  ???
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 12:54:46 AM »
I'm thinking the idiot with the halligan-like tool was on his first day.  I had to stop watching after his third attempt to jam the wrong end of the tool in the door.  It wasn't really the right tool.  He should've had a spiked halligan bar to split the jamb first, but he clearly didn't know that.

And the guys with the ram should've known that brute-forcing a steel door with a steel frame rarely works.  You bring the right tool and let Archimedes open it for you.

Bringing a knife to a door-fight...
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 02:49:38 AM »
What would make it truly funny is if it turned out to be the wrong address.

I gotta work on my doors some.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 07:13:52 AM »
At about 12:45 it becomes apparent that it is not deadbolts holding the door in place.  Could not see clearly, but my guess would be some sort of cross-bar.  Pounding seems to have finally loosened whatever held it in place.

My favorite part was right at the beginning when the next-door neighbor opened his door, looked at what was going on, then closed his door.  And yes, I'm wondering if his door is also as good as the one the cops were pounding on.

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 08:22:01 AM »
If your cops need to wear masks, you need new cops.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 08:25:40 AM »
They needed detcord to take that door out.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 08:37:00 AM »
sheep herders jack   less noise  more action.   bet it had a cross bar as well as a diagonal brace to a plate set in the floor.  i've opened low end safes quicker
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 09:17:54 AM »
Heh. Life imitates a Whoopi Goldberg movie.

I wonder if any of the bright bulbs there tried kicking that door first...
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 09:23:25 AM »
I love how the phone music starts playing at 09:59. Adds to the comical ambiance.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 09:28:44 AM »
It would have been quicker for them to take a stihl cutoff saw and cut a hole in the wall.
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Re: I want...
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 09:37:13 AM »
Quote from: adively on August 09, 2011, 09:28:44 AM
It would have been quicker for them to take a stihl cutoff saw and cut a hole in the wall.

Probably quieter too...lol
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 09:37:42 AM »
In the movies, they rappel down from the roof, and swing into the windows. But in the movies, you can kick most doors open.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 10:00:37 AM »
Quote from: fistful on August 09, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
In the movies, they rappel down from the roof, and swing into the windows. But in the movies, you can kick most doors open.

In the movies ("RED" in this case), they kick the drywall 6" to the right of the lock, and just yank it's mechanism from the inside of the wall.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 10:12:26 AM »
I remember seeing a scene like this several decades ago back in Chicago - local news crew came along as CPD was sledghammering a door with little success; a small window opened up (just like in a speakeasy) and the guy inside told them to stop pounding on his door.

The cops demanded he OPEN IT . . . and he said SHOW ME A WARRANT!

Much shouting . . . but the refrain was "YOU GOTS TO SHOW ME A WARRANT! I HAS MY RIGHTS!"

Finally they figured out who had the paperwork, but the occupant made them hold it up to the window so he could read it, whereupon he finally opened the door.

Door was built like you'd expect to find in an old castle, complete with crossbars across the back.

"Why do you have a door like this?"

"Dis be a high crime area and you guys is never around when we needs youse."

Then they clammed up and asked for lawyers. (No drugs were found.)
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2011, 10:35:44 AM »
Hmmm....makes one wonder if a battering ram generates enough kinetic energy to detonate a hollow-core door filled with Tannerite backed by a steel plate on the inside of the door securely fastened to deadbolts and steel hinges.....


....theoretically, of course.....
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Re: I want...
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2011, 11:06:42 AM »
i just keep angry skunks inside my hollow core, false, front most door
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2011, 11:15:39 AM »
What a Charlie fox trot.
Anyone here speak Romanian? I would love the here those cops cursing.

I guess we could call that a multi knock no knock warrant.

Observations.
Whoever was in there definitely had time to get rid of any evidence. With all the cops staring at the door he could have just went out the back.
Had the perp had a high power rifle he could have shot them all they way they were all in front of the door.
The walls around the door were most likely cement so that door frame had no give.
Maybe they just should have knocked?
That door could also have had a bar behind it against an opposite wall.

And yes this is one APS correct use of det cord.
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