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need some research or memory help
« on: September 23, 2011, 10:49:08 AM »
what was the forensic evidence excluded in the troy davis case?  it was found at his moms house and the search was bad so the evidence was tossed.i've looked and failed to find what it was
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 12:21:22 PM »
Here is a a post on free rebublic that has a couple of clues. You may be able to expand on the person's commentary and figure out exactly what was excluded.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2782288/posts

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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 02:20:39 PM »
thanks! i just had someone feed me the info  they found clothes with the cops blood on em at his mommas house.  was excluded cause cops scared mom into letting them in.  and he still played the innocent man card and fools buy it
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 03:02:15 PM »
Michelle Malkin tweeted about Troy Davis. Liberals came out into the sunlight to give their racist, misogynic piece of mind. I'm not shocked in any way.
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 03:53:16 PM »
It seems as if the conviction was based upon 9 eyewitnesses' testimony, 7 of whom have since recanted.

I wonder if there was some type of pressure behind the recanting, and, if true, there should have been perjury charges filed, along with a retrial.

Since there was no consideration of the recanted witnesses, I smell a rat involving some pressure on those witnesses.....
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 04:58:12 PM »
It seems as if the conviction was based upon 9 eyewitnesses' testimony, 7 of whom have since recanted.

I wonder if there was some type of pressure behind the recanting, and, if true, there should have been perjury charges filed, along with a retrial.

Since there was no consideration of the recanted witnesses, I smell a rat involving some pressure on those witnesses.....

No, there were at least four times that many eyewitnesses, and more than a few who knew him personally.

Those numbers are a purposeful misstatement of facts by the liberal lamestream press to try and advance their agenda.

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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 05:01:34 PM »
hard to explain away the bloodstained clothes at mommas house  with the cops blood on em
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 09:59:37 PM »
hard to explain away the bloodstained clothes at mommas house  with the cops blood on em

He undoubtedly stopped and attempted to render first aid, and then quietly departed the scene because he was such a modest young man that he didn't want publicity for his heroic act.
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 11:08:32 PM »
It seems as if the conviction was based upon 9 eyewitnesses' testimony, 7 of whom have since recanted.

I wonder if there was some type of pressure behind the recanting, and, if true, there should have been perjury charges filed, along with a retrial.

Since there was no consideration of the recanted witnesses, I smell a rat involving some pressure on those witnesses.....

Ann Coulter (whom I am not a fan of) penned something on this the other day.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46347

A few highlights:
- There were 34 witnesses
- Three of the recantations were from personal friends of Davis -- one was 5 feet away and said he wasn't sure it was Davis anymore.  Right.
- Another recantation (the vagrant's now dead girlfriend) didn't actually change anything.  She still said Davis shot the cop.
- The only two people that actually said Davis didn't shoot him weren't permitted into the court record because Davis (or his legal team) didn't think they'd hold up under cross examination.

So, we got a dude here that killed somebody earlier in the day (that doesn't seem to be disputed anywhere), the same gun was used to murder a police officer later on, dozens of people saw it happen, some of which knew Troy Davis by name before it went down, and everybody said it was him.

I'm against the death penalty, but this isn't the case to make the point.

Coulter could be lying through her teeth (wouldn't put it out of the question) but if even half of what she's saying is true I can see why GA executed the guy.

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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2011, 11:57:36 AM »
He undoubtedly stopped and attempted to render first aid, and then quietly departed the scene because he was such a modest young man that he didn't want publicity for his heroic act.


ahhh but our young hero maintains maintained that he left before any shooting
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 12:39:34 PM »
I had heard that most of the 34 witnesses were cops. ??? I'm completely unfamiliar with the story, other than the fact that some guy is blamed for killing someone so he gets put on death row and he may or may not be innocent.
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2011, 12:55:36 PM »
you heard wrong  remarkably so in that it was so completely wrong


http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-09-21.html

The bulk of the eyewitness testimony established the following:

Two tall, young black men were harassing a vagrant in the Burger King parking lot, one in a yellow shirt and the other in a white Batman shirt. The one in the white shirt used a brown revolver to pistol-whip the vagrant. When a cop yelled at them to stop, the man in the white shirt ran, then wheeled around and shot the cop, walked over to his body and shot him again, smiling.

Some eyewitnesses described the shooter as wearing a white shirt, some said it was a white shirt with writing, and some identified it specifically as a white Batman shirt. Not one witness said the man in the yellow shirt pistol-whipped the vagrant or shot the cop.

Several of Davis' friends testified -- without recantation -- that he was the one in a white shirt. Several eyewitnesses, both acquaintances and strangers, specifically identified Davis as the one who shot Officer MacPhail.

Now the media claim that seven of the nine witnesses against Davis at trial have recanted.

First of all, the state presented 34 witnesses against Davis -- not nine -- which should give you some idea of how punctilious the media are about their facts in death penalty cases.

Among the witnesses who did not recant a word of their testimony against Davis were three members of the Air Force, who saw the shooting from their van in the Burger King drive-in lane. The airman who saw events clearly enough to positively identify Davis as the shooter explained on cross-examination, "You don't forget someone that stands over and shoots someone."

Recanted testimony is the least believable evidence since it proves only that defense lawyers managed to pressure some witnesses to alter their testimony, conveniently after the trial has ended. Even criminal lobbyist Justice William Brennan ridiculed post-trial recantations.

Three recantations were from friends of Davis, making minor or completely unbelievable modifications to their trial testimony. For example, one said he was no longer sure he saw Davis shoot the cop, even though he was five feet away at the time. His remaining testimony still implicated Davis.

One alleged recantation, from the vagrant's girlfriend (since deceased), wasn't a recantation at all, but rather reiterated all relevant parts of her trial testimony, which included a direct identification of Davis as the shooter.

Only two of the seven alleged "recantations" (out of 34 witnesses) actually recanted anything of value -- and those two affidavits were discounted by the court because Davis refused to allow the affiants to testify at the post-trial evidentiary hearing, even though one was seated right outside the courtroom, waiting to appear.

The court specifically warned Davis that his refusal to call his only two genuinely recanting witnesses would make their affidavits worthless. But Davis still refused to call them -- suggesting, as the court said, that their lawyer-drafted affidavits would not have held up under cross-examination.
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Re: need some research or memory help
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2011, 05:41:04 PM »
^^^ This is interesting.  I have not followed or looked into this case at all.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2011, 09:38:29 PM »
^^^ This is interesting.  I have not followed or looked into this case at all.

i am having a ball beating the sob sisters over the head with it
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 09:44:36 PM »
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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