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New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« on: September 15, 2011, 12:10:12 PM »
Looks like the .357 SP101 needs a brother.
'Course, it will be for the kids...... =D



Catalog Number: KSP-242-8
Model Number: 5765
Caliber: .22 LR
Material:    Stainless Steel    
Finish:    Satin Stainless
Front Sight:    Fiber Optic    
Rear Sight:    Adjustable
Barrel Length:    4.20"    
Overall Length:    9.12"
Weight:    30.00 oz.    
Grips:    Black Rubber
Twist:    1:16" RH    Grooves:    6
MA Approved & Certified:    No    
CA Approved:    No
Capacity:    8    
Suggested Retail:    $675.00
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 12:14:37 PM »
I've been considering selling my Bearcat to fund this.  I want to see one in person first.

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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 12:33:11 PM »
Hmm. Depending on the trigger and street price, this might be the .22 wheelgun to make up for the Taurus 94 I wasted money on.
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 12:53:01 PM »
I absolutely treasure my NIB SP-101 in .22LR that I picked up a few years ago, right after they stopped making them. Mine has the four-inch heavy barrel.  It is a joy to shoot.
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 01:02:09 PM »

Capacity:    8    


That's dumb.


I had a Taurus 94 for awhile, and the 9 shot cylinder was at first attractive... then, annoying.

It ain't a defensive gun.  Capacity just doesn't matter.  Part of the trigger stroke wasn't the "same" (when used as a DA training aid for a .38/.357 defensive revolvers) due to the lack of motion of the cylinder (...and the rest of the trigger stroke sucked just because it was a Taurus 94, but that's irrelevant to discussion of this new Ruger).  The 94 cylinder only moved 40 degrees per trigger pull.  The typical 6-shot K/L/GP frame moves 60 degrees per trigger pull.

DA .22 "trainer" guns should have 6 shot cylinders.

As-is, this gun has no HKS or other brand speedloaders available for it due to this decision.

With 6 chambers, the HKS 22-J speedloader would be compatible.  In fact, the OLD SP101 .22 used to have 6 holes, and HKS markets the 22-J as compatible with "the SP101".  Now, this 8-shot variant ruins that and just creates more weirdness and caveat and non-standard oddities for shooters to learn... is your gun an "old" SP101 or a "new" SP101?  

I do like the front sight, though.  Big fan of green fiber optic front sights.  Got 'em on both my Redhawks, my Buckmark, my CZ and XD9.  Need to get 'em installed on my 1911's, but unlikely they'll ever get installed on my K-frame, J-frame or SP101 .357.


All in all, I'll keep my money in reserve for a chance at an older SP101 with a 6-shot cylinder.



ETA:  Also, in my experience, tiny framed guns have heavier hammer springs than heavier framed guns.  Given the additional hammer energy needed anyways for a rimfire round to ignite versus a centerfire primer, that means that a J/SP frame is a rough trigger to begin with... and just going to be rougher due to the heavier hammer spring added to it for rimfire shooting.  Would have been much smarter for Ruger to either re-start the "Security" frame again for the .22, or offer this in a GP frame rather than SP frame.

Larger frame = longer pivot axis for the hammer = greater velocity and mass of the hammer for less spring strength.

Heck, build a .22 on a Redhawk.  It'd be one baby-soft DA trigger.
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 01:21:12 PM »
FWIW, Ruger designed the trigger of this gun to have a feel more like a centerfire revolver, so it should be softer than most 22s.

I don't care about the trainer aspect, I want a 22 DA revolver for plinking, target shooting, field carry, etc.  I wouldn't be using a speedloader, but speed strips. 

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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 02:10:48 PM »
They should bring back the 9mm with moon clips while they're at it.
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 02:46:46 PM »
Oh yes!!!!
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 09:43:24 PM »

All in all, I'll keep my money in reserve for a chance at an older SP101 with a 6-shot cylinder.

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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 09:48:13 PM »
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They should bring back the 9mm with moon clips while they're at it.

I want an all-round concealable field/self-defense gun.
 
They should make a 5 shot, GP-100 frame sized revo chambered for .460 Rowland (headspace on case mouth), .45 ACP (moonclips) and .45 Auto Rim.

Smith could do the same in an L-frame (and/or 6 shot "N" if they want to be little girls about it), and Taurus in their Tracker.
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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 10:41:50 PM »
Doubt a 460 would work in an l-frame.  They barely got the 44special in there, the forcing cone was thin as paper.  The fatter, higher pressure 460 stretch things even more.

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Re: New Ruger SP101 .22lr
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 11:37:26 PM »
... .460 Rowland (headspace on case mouth), .45 ACP (moonclips) and .45 Auto Rim.

That will cause problems as there will be a gap between the .45 ACP/AR case mouths and the sharp edge where the .460 headspaces. Better to have the cylinder chambers bored conventionally and also use the moonclips with the .460 Rowland cartridges.

Edit: While we're at it, why not make the revolver so it can accept any .452" caliber cartridge: .460 S&W, .454 Casull, .45 Colt, .45 Schofield, .45 ACP, .45 AR, .460 Rowland, et alii.
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