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#4 steel shot, now for brown bears
« on: October 18, 2011, 03:10:07 PM »
Well, not by choice of course.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/duck-hunters-survive-unbelievable-alaska-grizzly-attack?page=0,0

title edited due to picky picky picker people

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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 04:31:24 PM »
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

And I seriously doubt if anyone else is going to question shots #11, 12 & 13 either.

There are some folks who need to buy a lottery ticket.

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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 04:34:59 PM »
Actually, the story says the duck hunters were loaded with steel 4's . . . Cheney used 7 1/2's on a lawyer.
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 04:35:07 PM »
They were shooting #4 steel shot, not 7.
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 04:39:23 PM »
Interesting as I have heard others talking about using #4 shot for self defense.
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 04:50:03 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on October 18, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Interesting as I have heard others talking about using #4 shot for self defense.

Which the bear was shot with, what, six times? At under 20 feet? And duck hunters typically use tight chokes fired from 26" barrels and magnum shells.  I'll stick to 00 buck thank you very much.
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 05:05:07 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on October 18, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Interesting as I have heard others talking about using #4 shot for self defense.

That's #4 buckshot, which is much larger than just "#4 shot". #4 buckshot, which is a popular compromise load for tight urban areas with thin wooden walls, and stopping power, is usually comprised of 27 .24 caliber pellets.

This is in comparison to #00 buckshot which is usually 9 pellets of .33 caliber, or #000 buckshot which is most commonly loaded as 6 pellets of .36 caliber.
#4 shot, a popular load to make up for non-toxic wetland steel's poor ballistic performance as compared to lead is .13 in caliber. And the average number of pellets is somewhere slightly north of 200.
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 05:12:08 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on October 18, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Interesting as I have heard others talking about using #4 shot for self defense.

For bear? They're braver than me then. I'm thinking 30 mil cannon

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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 05:34:27 PM »
sounds like a job for a Kel-Tec KSG

flip the mag lever and release the slugs

I wonder if Alaskan Game wardens would bother if you had the legal 3 rounds of steel shot in one tube and 7 slugs in the other.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg/
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 05:48:54 PM »
Quote from: Harold Tuttle on October 18, 2011, 05:34:27 PM
sounds like a job for a Kel-Tec KSG

flip the mag lever and release the slugs

I wonder if Alaskan Game wardens would bother if you had the legal 3 rounds of steel shot in one tube and 7 slugs in the other.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg/

That would be the win. 
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 06:45:32 PM »
In it's current form, reaching up inside the KSG's loading port/ejection port to throw the switch and rack in a slug rather than birdshot is probably faster than manually loading a slug into a traditional pump.

However, I strongly suspect you really don't have time for either in the average bear charge.  [tinfoil]
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 07:04:20 PM »
Just remember to release the trigger before you cycle the action with that KSG ...
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 07:15:56 PM »
kinda tricky to point at a ducky but the gear change for booboo would be worthy

maybe they will make it in sawgrass camo
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 08:31:02 PM »
Quote from: bedlamite on October 18, 2011, 07:04:20 PM
Just remember to release the trigger before you cycle the action with that KSG ...

I believed they fixed that after getting some "feedback" from the shooting community.  And by feedback every gun blogger that got wind of it was like, "OMG WTF?! Horse poop!"
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 09:50:55 PM »
Yes, that was fixed.
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Re: #7 steel shot, now for brown bears
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2011, 10:32:44 PM »
Quote from: Harold Tuttle on October 18, 2011, 07:15:56 PM
kinda tricky to point at a ducky but the gear change for booboo would be worthy

Ever since the KSG was made public I've been wondering if hanging some dummy weights on the rails could give you a nice smooth swing suitable for clay games or bird hunting.  If the answer is yes then toss in a screw-in choke and you might have a very versatile platform.

From what I understand you don't really gain a tighter pattern from having a longer barrel.  You see longer ones in trap just to slow down the swing.  Shorter stuff is used for skeet because there's more side-to-side movement. It'd be kind of funny to run a sporting clays course where you're screwing weights onto the KSG's rail and swapping chokes out based on the presentation.

If I had more time to shoot, oh yeah, I'd be trying it out.
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