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Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« on: January 12, 2010, 08:03:17 PM »
I just learned of them. Looks interesting. What do you do with them? How do you recommend getting started?
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 08:38:34 PM »
Never mind.  See below.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 10:47:49 PM »
I just learned of them. Looks interesting. What do you do with them? How do you recommend getting started?

Yea.

Start with a 20 lb kettlebell.  Plenty of exercises on Youtube.  You can try them out to see what works for you.  Biggest thing?  Go slow at first and concentrate on form.  "Enter the Kettlebell" is kinda the original manual. 

I've been using kettlebells for a year.  It's not like benching, the weights are a lot lower and will curb stomp you like no tomorrow.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 03:31:47 AM »
I shouldn't have looked at the issue so narrowly.  I know a few guys who like kettlebells quite a bit.  I have problems with them as far as torque on my wrists, but my wrists are messed up anyway.

Far be it from me to discourage you from trying them out.  Try before you buy, though.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 08:24:03 AM »
I shouldn't have looked at the issue so narrowly.  I know a few guys who like kettlebells quite a bit.  I have problems with them as far as torque on my wrists, but my wrists are messed up anyway.

Far be it from me to discourage you from trying them out.  Try before you buy, though.

What weight did you start at?
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 08:51:32 AM »
Rev-

I want to try this, but my back is torqued- L4/L5....any idea what they may or may not do to that area?
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 11:12:09 AM »
I use them if the gym has them.  My current gym only has one pair and they are too heavy for what I use them for.  My former gym had them and I used them for forearms alot.  They balance much better for the lifts I do....Because I am a powerlifter and not a bodybuilder, they are not high on my usage agenda....chris3

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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 01:30:08 PM »
www.crossfit.com has a great message board. They discuss how to use kettlebells and other exercise equipment.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 01:34:57 PM »
I think the ones I tried were 35kg.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 03:43:39 PM »
I think the ones I tried were 35kg.

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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 03:55:54 PM »
Yeah, I shouldn't judge them too harshly until I've tried a lighter set.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 04:09:14 PM »
I've used them, even own a couple. I thought they were great, I found them more fun and interesting than bar weights.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 05:19:24 PM »
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I want to try this, but my back is torqued- L4/L5....any idea what they may or may not do to that area?

A physical therapist would be better qualified to answer.   My own suggestion would be to start light.  Kettlebells are not strictly a "bodybuilding" device.  The sole purpose is basically, keep the weight moving.  Kettlebells are not good for building stacks of muscles.  Think of it as almost like weighted aerobics.

Mind you, I exercise for a specific purpose and that is not the same as most.  For myself, they are very handy at building overall muscle strength than focusing on one area.  I want low muscle bulk, high endurance and being significantly stronger than I look.  I'm not trying to get cut or bulk up.  Not saying you couldn't do either with kettlebells, just that my purposes are different and that is what I have focused on. Any 'advice' I give re my workout is strictly to be taken with that perspective.  If you're trying to get cut or bulk up, please do not follow any of my advice whatsoever and find someone that knows what they're doing.


I think the ones I tried were 35kg.

Either you have been using kettlebells or weights for quite some time, or you seriously seriously bought the wrong kettlebell.  If anyone directed you to that to start, please kick them squarely and firmly in the crotch for such bad advice.  35 lbs is the standard size.  Twice that?  To start?  That's like starting your bench pressing at 1.5x your body weight.

I always recommend starting at maximum of 20 lbs.  Even if the person is in fair to decent physical shape to begin with.  There's no shame in starting with a 10 lb (for females) or a 15 lb (for males) kettlebell.  There is a couple reasons for this.   One, a person should be focusing on form and technique at first.  Not struggling to lift the gorram kettlebell.  Second, in my opinion and I am not even remotely a fitness expert (so take with a very large grain of salt), a lot of exercise regimes seem to focus on using one muscle group at a time.  "Spot" training.  A lot of them are "supported".  Think moreso machines or stations, as opposed to free weights.  A lot of exercise machines force you to more or less use the correct form and technique, and focus on a specific task.  I noticed that doing so exclusively can give you unrepresented stabilizer muscles.  ie, you can lift big heavy weights, but have problems "balancing" them if you're moving them in multiple directions. 

Working with light weight kettlebells greatly help build up your stabilizer muscles, IMHO.  That is why I prefer them bench pressing or "station" related weights.  I want everything nice and strong.   It doesn't give me huge bulging biceps, but it allows me to move heavy objects around with ease. 

My recommended path is 15 lbs (optional, for a couple weeks or months), 20 lbs (for circa 3-6 months), 30/35 lbs (year or two) and then slowly moving to 45 lbs.  I still use my 30 lb kettlebell for the majority of my tasks, and my 45 lb kettlebell for the stuff that's just too easy with my 30 lb'er to give me a good workout.  This is not intended to brag, but I feel a lot stronger with my single 35 lb kettlebell than I ever did as a gym rat using machines and benches.  It was pleasing to the ego to bench more than my body weight.  But I think I'm significantly stronger now in general, everyday tasks. 

If you want the ego trip of lifting huge # of lbs or big muscles, stick to the gym.  This is not intended to be insulting in the least.  Some folks want that, and there is nothing wrong with feeling good about benching 200, 300 lbs.  If you want to do everyday tasks easier, a kettlebell and a diverse workout regime is a pretty decent option.  It's not a "one size fits all" thing, of course.  You gotta go with what works for you, obviously.   


I've used them, even own a couple. I thought they were great, I found them more fun and interesting than bar weights.

Same here.  Bars aren't as fun. 
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2010, 12:05:25 AM »
Rev, thanks for your input. You're clearing up what I had started to figure out about kettlebells from reading on the internet. I'm not interested in having a shape of a bodybuilder but instead improving my overall strength and fitness. I had kinda figured that kettlebells could be useful in that regard, but I wasn't sure of how. I'm going to try to get my hands on a couple of 15 or 20 lb. kettlebells soon and start off with a couple simple exercises.

Let's keep the discussion rollin'.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 12:36:27 AM »
My experience was in the context of standing around the fitness area in my National Guard armory.  It was simply a matter of, "let's see if we can fool Devonai into using the 35 kilos, har har har."

I like the idea of keeping the kettlebell moving.  That sounds more interesting than simply banging out reps.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2010, 01:52:37 AM »
Rev: what you describe is pretty much my goal. I loathe gyms (too much MC association with 'em) so I've not considered that a practical means to that end. Oops, just re-read the first post. "Enter the kettlebell..." /sets off to google this
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 12:04:43 AM »
To start off, do I need one or two kettlebells? I've seen a lot of exercises that only use one, but there also is this pushup variation which uses two, I think.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 12:20:05 AM »
To start off, do I need one or two kettlebells? I've seen a lot of exercises that only use one, but there also is this pushup variation which uses two, I think.

You could buy two.  But obviously buy a single one first and see how you like it.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 02:14:23 PM »
Rev, thanks for your input. You're clearing up what I had started to figure out about kettlebells from reading on the internet. I'm not interested in having a shape of a bodybuilder but instead improving my overall strength and fitness. I had kinda figured that kettlebells could be useful in that regard, but I wasn't sure of how. I'm going to try to get my hands on a couple of 15 or 20 lb. kettlebells soon and start off with a couple simple exercises.

Let's keep the discussion rollin'.

Plenty of non-freaky athletic and capable physiques are built without kettlebells. In theory kettlebells could probably be used to build a freaky physique.

It's more about what you do and what you eat. If you want the metabolic conditioning effects of long duration kettlebell swing sessions you can use a dumbbell, or a bag filled with sand. You'll also find it pretty hard to accidentally end up with the shape of a bodybuilder from hitting the conventional weights, plenty of guys at my gym fail hard at that all the time.

To be honest, they are a useful tool at times, and they're a gimmick too. Some of the advocates out there would have them as curing cancer. You can do a hell of a lot with a simple barbell and a set of weights - you'll get plenty of so-called "real-world" "functional" strength from putting heavy weight above your head, or picking heavy weight up off the floor. You'll develop endurance and metabolic conditioning from doing barbell complexes and 20 rep squats.

Personally if money were somewhat tight I'd get a barbell, or adjustable dumbbells or a membership to a really cheap gym. If it were really tight I'd make a sandbag, buy a sledgehammer and find an old tractor tire for hitting with the sledgehammer and flipping. Kettlebells would honestly be on my 'luxury' list if I ever put together a home gym. I use them at the gym occasionally for swings, but we only have 45lb'ers and if I were to do them regularly I'd outgrow that weight fast. Perhaps not for snatches, but the limitation there for me is technique, I've dumbbell snatched considerably more than 45lbs without ever taking them seriously either.
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 09:23:20 PM »

Oy...   I'm starting the "downward spiral".  45 lb set, 30 lb set, 20 lb set.  Gods, it feels like the second or third day of Basic.  20 lbs weighs a LOT.    :'(




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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 09:31:41 PM »
You'll develop endurance and metabolic conditioning from doing barbell complexes and 20 rep squats.
I tried a few sets of 20 rep squats yesterday, to see if I could start training for endurance in the gym.   :O  That high rep weightlifting is no shinola serious business.  My body felt the same after spending 15 minutes under the bar as it does do after a full day 100 mile cycling tour.  I've no idea how that can be possible, but there it is.

Good stuff.  Can't wait to try it again (after some serious recovery).

Anyway, back to the kettlebell thread.

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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2010, 01:04:43 AM »
Interesting contention Iain. Rev (or anyone else who's used kettlebells) do you feel that is accurate? Could one use a barbell to perform the same exercises as a kettle bell?
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2010, 12:36:37 PM »
Interesting contention Iain. Rev (or anyone else who's used kettlebells) do you feel that is accurate? Could one use a barbell to perform the same exercises as a kettle bell?

There's nothing magical about a kettlebell.  It's just a weight.  Weight is weight.  Whether it's sand, lead, water, whatever.   I just find the kettlebell form to be useful for the exercises I do.   Neither kettle bells nor barbells are that expensive.  Buy one of each, find which makes you happy, and sell off the one you don't like.  Biggest dent you'd probably take is $20. 

That said, remember, I'm not trying to be a bodybuilder. 
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2012, 02:57:45 PM »
Sorry about ressurrecting a zombie....

I just discovered kettlebells about a month ago.
Currently I'm using a 35lber and doing mainly Turkish getups, swings, and clean/presses.
I took a RKC class this last weekend, which I found to be worth every penny- the trainer was very good and was broke down every movement so that we could learn how to have the correct form.
The trainer, who said he weighed about 170 lbs, (he was scrappy and built like a road bicycle racer) demonstrated the Turkish getup with a 106lb bell. :O
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Re: Anybody exercise with kettlebells?
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2012, 03:25:24 PM »
The trainer, who said he weighed about 170 lbs, (he was scrappy and built like a road bicycle racer) demonstrated the Turkish getup with a 106lb bell. :O

Ouch.  Not a guy I'd want angry with me.




(Update, using a 60 lb bell mostly daily. I need more cardio, but I'm very happy with my current strength.)
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