Do Want: New Quality Commercial M1 Carbine for Reasonable $$$

[roo_ster]

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/21/m1-carbine/

Suggested Retail Price: $816 (walnut),  ”Paratrooper Folding Stock Model” $903.00

I wonder what the usual OTD price would be?

I'd love a paratrooper model for ease of storage & toting. 

I already have a CMP M1 Carbine, but I am loathe to use it as a HD or trunk gun, given crazy carbine prices.

[freakazoid]

Since there were so many M1 carbines made, why are they so expensive?

[Jamisjockey]

Since there were so many M1 carbines made, why are they so expensive?

IIRC we gave a metric butt load of them to other countries after the war. 

[griz]

Wow, I bought a clunker (seem to remember Blue Sky?) many years ago.  I thought I bought a shooter but it turns out I was a wise investor.

[Waitone]

Seems the butt-load of M1 carbines made a stop in South Korea.  SK warehoused them and now wants to sell them in the US.  Seems Hillary and / or Obama don't want it to happen so it won't until after the next election.  I seriously doubt SK will throw all that hardware in the water knowing all they have to do is wait.

For the record, I drool at the thought of buying a genuine woody M1 carbine.

[AJ Dual]

I've got my Grandfather's Winchester I inherited in 2003. I think it's a re-arsenaled late-war model. It's got the better click adjustable sights, and the bayonet lug sleeve on it. I'm not really up on the nomenclature beyond that.  I never took it out to shoot until last year....

On a lark, I brought it along to a bowling pin shoot at my club I was at for my work-hours. We set up a few timed tables of the regulation pins and distances, but on the other end of the berm, we place 20-odd pins on holders at random and folks waiting their turn, or the staff can blast away at them when things are slow.

I knew why people liked the carbine just from holding it, but shooting it was a minor epiphany for sure. "Oh.. so that's why!"  etc. Better than .357 magnum ballistics that shot effortlessly, both to hit what you were aiming at, and extremely rapid target acquisition too. And incredibly light recoil to top it off.

Seems like the carbine never really hit a "parity moment" with the commercial market. It kind of went from "too many to bother making more" during the heyday of WWII surplus, (except for the bargain basement Universal...) to being "too expensive to reproduce".

[charby]

I've owned one and they are kind of meh. Underpowered and not very accurate.

It was my go to coyote gun back when I fur hunted but my accurate range was very limited and it took a few rounds to knock a dog down.

[AJ Dual]

I've owned one and they are kind of meh. Underpowered and not very accurate.

It was my go to coyote gun back when I fur hunted but my accurate range was very limited and it took a few rounds to knock a dog down.

Not counting crappy FMJ terminal ballistics, the .30 Carbine has the same ft/lbs at 100 yards as your average 125gr 6" barreled .357 Magnum does at the muzzle.

Nothing to sneeze at, unless you're shooting an Elk or Brown Bear/Grizzly IMO. Or trying to shoot something past 250 yards.  Accuracy? Well, they made millions of the things, so I can't say they were all snipers... In its intended role of "Putting better than pistol ballistics onto or, more appropriately, into fleeting man sized targets at 300 yards or less" the M1 does admirably, and it's a joy to shoot while doing it and nice and light while you're carrying it around waiting for something to shoot at. Plus it has the advantage of looking "PC" in some circumstances.

It wouldn't be my first choice for war, but I wouldn't feel too badly about it if it's what I had. I'd rather have it than any WWII era pistol caliber SMG were I going into harm's way.

'Yotes are terribly difficult quarry, for that, as fast and flat shooting a rifle as possible is what I'd want. AR fits the bill there nicely.

[geronimotwo]

funny how i always think of the AR as being underpowered.

as far as the m1, one of our local gun shops has one that i fondle every time i go in the place.  it just has that great look that say "functionality" all the way. it also feels ergonomically like it would be a dreamy shooter.  haven't taken one out to the range yet ('cause i'm afraid i would find it a "must have" if i did). like i need one more platform to support!

[Hutch]

I've had two or three, and every time I ditch one, I think "that's it, no more".  They are no longer cheap, neither is the ammo, neither are the magazines.  Get behind me, Satan!  No!  I will NOT! probably.

[BryanP]

funny how i always think of the AR as being underpowered.

as far as the m1, one of our local gun shops has one that i fondle every time i go in the place.  it just has that great look that say "functionality" all the way. it also feels ergonomically like it would be a dreamy shooter.  haven't taken one out to the range yet ('cause i'm afraid i would find it a "must have" if i did). like i need one more platform to support!

Exactly.  I love the way the Carbine looks and feels.  The closest I've been able to come to that without getting into Yet Another Caliber is a Mini 14 and/or the M1 Carbine stock for a 10/22.

[MechAg94]

Don't they sell paratrooper stocks for the carbine if you already have one.  I would hope that would not require any mods that would mess up the original stock.


Let me take a guess that most of y'all missed the Italian (or was it Spanish?) return carbines that CMP had a few years ago.  I've got two and they arn't going anywhere.  Had I known they would be sold out so quick, I might have gotten a couple more.

[roo_ster]

Don't they sell paratrooper stocks for the carbine if you already have one.  I would hope that would not require any mods that would mess up the original stock.


Let me take a guess that most of y'all missed the Italian (or was it Spanish?) return carbines that CMP had a few years ago.  I've got two and they arn't going anywhere.  Had I known they would be sold out so quick, I might have gotten a couple more.

Got one.

[coppertales]

I have an early Universal, a good one, and a CMP Underwood.  So, I am set.  A real fun plinker.  Just take the gun for what it is, not what you want it to be.  If it doesn't float your boat, buy something else that does.  So, don't tell me that it is a POS because you don't like them, I do....chris3

[freakazoid]

I really enjoy shooting carbines. I must get one of these.

[Hawkmoon]

My last update from the Civilian Marksmanship folks said they have some ... but they aren't new, commercial. The new ones are made in Worcester, MA, by Auto-Ordnance. They have them with both fixed stocks and folding stocks.

http://www.auto-ordnance.com/Firearms/Firearms.asp

   

[MechAg94]

A Thompson pistol with 50 round drum looks interesting.

[Angel Eyes]

Seems the butt-load of M1 carbines made a stop in South Korea.  SK warehoused them and now wants to sell them in the US.  Seems Hillary and / or Obama don't want it to happen so it won't until after the next election.  I seriously doubt SK will throw all that hardware in the water knowing all they have to do is wait.

If memory serves, the issue was that we loaned them to the South Koreans, and now they're trying to sell them back to us.

Fun little plinkers.  I replaced the upper handguard on mine with an Ultimak rail and mounted an Aimpoint Micro.  Great for rapid target acquisition.

[Scout26]

The State department is allowing them to send back 86,000 M1 Garands.  Don't know if they'll go through CMP or commercial outlets.   The administration is refusing to allow the carbines to be sold because of the high capacity magazines they use. 

 

[AJ Dual]

The State department is allowing them to send back 86,000 M1 Garands.  Don't know if they'll go through CMP or commercial outlets.   The administration is refusing to allow the carbines to be sold because of the high capacity magazines they use. 

 

Yeah, anything with an exposed protruding magazine is scaryevil to the libtarded.

Unless they were really well arsenal preserved, and not used for drill, I'm going to wager these M1's will be bottom barrel, and the commercial sellers will be charging highway robbery for them, cashing in on folks who don't know how to run the CMP process.

Too bad someone didn't come out with a more modern version of the M1 Carbine, but chambered in something more potent, like .223/5.56, but not screw it up by doing the gas-block mounting wrong, so it applies uneven barrel torque, causing massive shot stringing as it heats up, or do other boneheadded moves like spending 20-odd years restricting 20 or 30 round magazine sales because the owner of the company was a dumbass Fudd who didn't trust his fellow Americans, or when he finally does kick the bucket, do half-assed stuff like finally (mostly) fix the barrel issue, but then re-work the rifle in to stupid tacti-cool variants that cost more than a decent mid-level AR-15 does in the first place.

 

[roo_ster]

Too bad someone didn't come out with a more modern version of the M1 Carbine, but chambered in something more potent, like .223/5.56, but not screw it up by doing the gas-block mounting wrong, so it applies uneven barrel torque, causing massive shot stringing as it heats up, or do other boneheadded moves like spending 20-odd years restricting 20 or 30 round magazine sales because the owner of the company was a dumbass Fudd who didn't trust his fellow Americans, or when he finally does kick the bucket, do half-assed stuff like finally (mostly) fix the barrel issue, but then re-work the rifle in to stupid tacti-cool variants that cost more than a decent mid-level AR-15 does in the first place.

 

That's crazy talk.

[Snowdog]

I've had a Kahr/AO carbine for a few years now... no complaints.  It's pretty accurate and easy on the eyes, I can tell you that.