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Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« on: April 18, 2012, 08:03:24 PM »
I'm sure y'all saw the article about the lab who stayed by the deceased lab, which was touching, of course. Well she's been reunited with her family. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/17/loyal-dog-who-stayed-by-dead-dog-side-reunited-with-family/

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Before Maggie's family claimed her Monday, the dog was spayed and microchipped.
Yep, they performed surgery on the dog.
And if performing surgery on the dog without the owner's consent wasn't bad enough:
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The family will be issued citations for having an unregistered dog and allowing it to run loose and will have to pay nominal room and board costs, Reyes said, but the shelter did the surgery and implanted the microchip for free.

And apparently the brainwashing has been widely accepted.
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The good Samaritan who had hoped to adopt Grace was notified, Reyes said, and his reaction was "understandably bittersweet."
"He had a lot of the same questions we did. How could they not have a license? Had Maggie had an ID tag or microchip, she could have been spayed and been back home last week," Reyes said.

The fact that the dog belongs to this family, not to them, is not even taken into consideration for a moment.

I looked up the whole licensing thing. In addition to making sure your dog is vaccinated, you must also purchase a license from your county of residence within 30 days of either moving to the county or getting the dog. This is the law. And according to the county website, this is why:
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Found pets wearing licensing can be reunited quickly with their families. Your lost pet can be brought directly home without having to come through our animal shelter.
If your lost pet comes into our shelter wearing their license they will be taken care of for a longer period of time while our dedicated staff exhausts every option in an effort to reunite you. Your pet's license is proof of a current Rabies vaccination. If your pet is ever involved in a bite, vaccination & licensing may allow him to be quarantined at home instead of at our shelter or a veterinary facility.
Keeping your pets Rabies vaccination current protects your pet & your family's health!
License fees help to support the reunion of thousands of lost pets with their families as well as the adoption of pets to their new families. License fees also assist in supporting vital services such as spay/neuter programs and special medical needs for the animals that come in to our shelters.

So the 3-year rabies tag provided by my vet when Charlie was vaccinated isn't proof of rabies, the ID tag with my phone number isn't sufficient for getting him returned to me, and I'm supposed to pay for these nazis to spay and neuter other animals as they see fit.

Nice. Oh, and I'm also supposed to prove that he's been neutered. Really? You can't tell?

I think they're worried about the wrong things here. Clearly they need to be more concerned with the human population reproducing here.
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 08:41:23 PM »
California has a whole lot of "fun" laws about dogs. The AKC works to fight them, but the animal rights groups and concerned citizens generally trump the people who know what their talking about.
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 09:14:58 PM »
Yeah. I live in the city, so I have to take my dogs to a dog park to get enough exercise.  Most folks are nice, but we have some full on koolaid drinkers at our local part.  I have had folk earnestly tell me that if you don't spay/neuter your dog it's abusive, makes them impossible to train, and (my favorite) that you should be imprisoned for it.

Funny thing, it's always their dogs that are aggressive and cause problems.  I had one tell me that I had to deal with their dog biting mine because he (the dog) didn't like the way she was chasing tennis balls, and he thinks he's the dog park police.  I somehow refrained from shooting the dog.

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 10:43:50 PM »
I had one tell me that I had to deal with their dog biting mine because he (the dog) didn't like the way she was chasing tennis balls, and he thinks he's the dog park police.  I somehow refrained from shooting the dog.

Don't shoot the dog, shoot that owner.  Take the dog home, teach it how to live life like a real dog.  Both of you profit.   =D

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 08:34:30 PM »
It is not about animal or human welfare.
It is about power and control.
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 12:25:44 AM »
It is not about animal or human welfare.
It is about power and control.

More than likely, it's about MONEY. 

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 11:58:13 AM »
It is not about animal or human welfare.
It is about power and control.
More than likely, it's about MONEY. 

Not mutually exclusive aims.
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 12:21:06 PM »
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 12:47:14 PM »
It is not about animal or human welfare.
It is about power and control.

Yes and no.

At the level their making these stupid laws and crap up, yes it's about control.

But it's been succesful enough that many folks actually believe that it's about animal welfare now, and follow it with a zealotry rarely seen outside religious wars.  It's crazy how much faith some of these animal "lovers" put in their fraked up  anthropomorphized ideas of dog welfare.

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 02:19:11 PM »
Yeah. I live in the city, so I have to take my dogs to a dog park to get enough exercise.  Most folks are nice, but we have some full on koolaid drinkers at our local part.  I have had folk earnestly tell me that if you don't spay/neuter your dog it's abusive, makes them impossible to train, and (my favorite) that you should be imprisoned for it.

Funny thing, it's always their dogs that are aggressive and cause problems.  I had one tell me that I had to deal with their dog biting mine because he (the dog) didn't like the way she was chasing tennis balls, and he thinks he's the dog park police.  I somehow refrained from shooting the dog.

I can't take my male wiemaraner to the dog park because he is still intact. I've gotten yelled a few times for working him off leash in city parks with prairie grass and resident pheasants. I usally ignore them.

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 09:01:08 PM »
I can't take my male wiemaraner to the dog park because he is still intact. I've gotten yelled a few times for working him off leash in city parks with prairie grass and resident pheasants. I usally ignore them.



What?  Is the dog nailing the pheasants in the grass??  ???

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 10:28:40 PM »
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pheasants in the grass??

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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 11:11:25 PM »
What?  Is the dog nailing the pheasants in the grass??  ???

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I live in a college town and folks are worried I am harassing/harming the birds. After nesting season is over with for ground birds I do a lot of preseason warm up with my dog, he points birds and then I flush them. Helps get him ready for bird season and reinforces steady to shot.
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2012, 08:38:08 PM »
they wouldn't like how my border collie plays with bunnies
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 01:04:14 PM »
Mason doesn't play with bunnies. Or squirrels.

Last summer he was at doggy day care and in the back yard with my friends' dog. They stood, side by side, and watched a rabbit hop from one side of the yard to the other, less than 15 feet away.

Only their heads moved.

After the rabbit made it about 3/4ths of the way across the yard they apparently got bored, so they turned around and went back to the house.
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2012, 03:31:18 PM »
they wouldn't like how my border collie plays with bunnies

They probably wouldn't like how Pearl plays with any starnge animal...
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Re: Another shining example of Kalifornia socialism.
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2012, 06:17:20 PM »
But it's been succesful enough that many folks actually believe that it's about animal welfare now, and follow it with a zealotry rarely seen outside religious wars.  It's crazy how much faith some of these animal "lovers" put in their fraked up  anthropomorphized ideas of dog welfare.

Yep. That's it exactly. They've begun to believe their own press and they're shocked when anyone coming in from "outside" has a differing opinion. No one actually stops and thinks things through anymore, they just do what they're told "because it's the law." Well I'm not going to get a license for my dog. I'm sick to death of spending my time and energy and money on stupid crap and I'm just not doing it anymore. And I'm going to stop there before this turns into a major rant on all the other stupid laws I'm just done following.
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