Why there are no peace officers anymore

[Tallpine]

http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w256.html

Sanity and the Golden Rule are not allowed on police forces anymore.

[roo_ster]

http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w256.html

Sanity and the Golden Rule are not allowed on police forces anymore.

Because they are set upon and ruined by their fellows, as described in the article.

[zxcvbob]

Her mistake was not arresting the other cop on the spot.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

typical grigg  missing a few facts.  i sometimes think he writes the last paragraph first then fleshes it out.  great stuff for soundbites and pep ralliies though.  internet or otherwise

[Perd Hapley]

typical grigg  missing a few facts.  i sometimes think he writes the last paragraph first then fleshes it out.  great stuff for soundbites and pep ralliies though.  internet or otherwise

typical csd  missing any facts at all  i sometimes think he comes up with snarky comments in opposition to the op first then fleshes it out goes looking for links that agree with his new position. great stuff for trying to seem like he knows about everything before anybody else and more wisely skeptical than all the other boys and girls.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i'll help you out wishes
  perez had 2 incidents  only one of which gets mention

and he was probationary and had 2 noteworthy incidents already?


and in typical grigg fashion he presents the cops story with zero attempt at any point of view that doesn't make him money    his style is such he could get a lobotomy and write for huff po or d/u

the first lady?  take a look  maybe grigg couldn't link this after all i'm a computer guru
http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2012/04/bogota_officer_claims_she_crossed_thin_blue_line_in_incident_captured_on_video.html

[Perd Hapley]

Yup. Goes looking for links afterward. 

[AJ Dual]

i'll help you out wishes
  perez had 2 incidents  only one of which gets mention

and he was probationary and had 2 noteworthy incidents already?


and in typical grigg fashion he presents the cops story with zero attempt at any point of view that doesn't make him money    his style is such he could get a lobotomy and write for huff po or d/u

the first lady?  take a look  maybe grigg couldn't link this after all i'm a computer guru
http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2012/04/bogota_officer_claims_she_crossed_thin_blue_line_in_incident_captured_on_video.html

I get what you're saying about the author. There's a fair amount of slant in the article, or simply unfounded assertions.

On April 29, 2011, Tasca was on patrol when she got a call for medical assistance. Former Bogota Council Member Tara Sharp, concerned about the erratic behavior of her 22-year-old son Kyle, called the police to take him to the hospital for a psychological evaluation. Requesting police intervention, particularly in cases of this kind, is never a good idea. Sharp was exceptionally fortunate that Officer Tasca was the first to respond: She has years of experience as an EMT and had just completed specialized training on situations involving psychologically disturbed people.

Where does it say "is never a good idea"? In the authors experience? Is it so written in the DSMIV? Police manuals? Taught in medical schools?

So yeah, I can tell the author has a point of view, and an axe to grind. Then again, who doesn't?  And I think it's understandable that boards like THR, GRM, and APS that have a Libertarian bent to them are going to focus on "police abuse" stories more than "police hero" stories. And that does not make the board "anti LEO".

I'm going to come right out and say it. No amount of leg-humping the police or the "law and order" viewpoint is going to cancel out your own past CS&D.  Even if APS actually even had a majority of active posters who were LEO's.

[Tallpine]

take a look  maybe grigg couldn't link this after all i'm a computer guru

What I saw corroborates Grigg's article.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i wouldn't cancel a thing.  its all part of what it took to get to where and what i am.  and i am well pleased with that today.
no amount of internet bombast and revolution can ever compensate for doing bupkus to "fight the power" in the real world.  though it plays well as grigg illustrates and it will draw camp followers who likewise restrict their revolution to the net

[T.O.M.]

What I saw makes me wonder what he was drinking when he wrote his article!  She shows up with a second cop.  She didn't calm the situation down.  Her partner was the one who jumped the kid.  Whether he deserved it or not (he didn't) isn't as much an issue of debate here as is her misstatement of the situation, and Griggs's version in the article.  Have fun fighting about this one, kids.  It's too much of a mess for me even.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

What I saw corroborates Grigg's article.

really?  you would allow a mentally disturbed young man to stomp off? why?

i know i would only do that if i was allowed to leave the area completely myself.   sometimes these folks like to stomp in the house and come out with a gane changer.  you get the nut unarmed and outside?  keep em there.  

and if i was trying to cuff someone and someone tried to stop me they'd get an elbow to the nose.  once the kids cuffed if they want to file a complaint have at it.  shes lucky she was a cop  if i did that i'd take an ambulance ride and get a cell

not sure about montana but crazy folks here are dangerous and when they scare their own loved ones so bad they call the cops it can get ugly.  we lost a really nice guy here in a similar case. he refused to drop a shotgun after his grown son called the cops.  when he tried to get through a door into house with shotgun he died.  same after shooting nonsense.  son claimed he was no threat.  yea sonny? then why didn't YOU  take the shotgun?
damn shame too because he was truly a great guy.  getting cuffed wasn't gonna hurt that kid and god only knows what officer tasca thought she was doing

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

What I saw makes me wonder what he was drinking when he wrote his article!  She shows up with a second cop.  She didn't calm the situation down.  Her partner was the one who jumped the kid.  Whether he deserved it or not (he didn't) isn't as much an issue of debate here as is her misstatement of the situation, and Griggs's version in the article.  Have fun fighting about this one, kids.  It's too much of a mess for me even.

statist!!  its grigg!

[MicroBalrog]

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no amount of internet bombast and revolution can ever compensate for doing bupkus to "fight the power" in the real world.  though it plays well as grigg illustrates and it will draw camp followers who likewise restrict their revolution to the net

In your world, anything short of, I don't know, actively torching police departments counts as doing nothing, I presume.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

nope  file complaints  file charges  sue     actually confront folks.

it does mean you have to do something more than talk smack and its not for everyone most folks

[Tallpine]

Her partner was the one who jumped the kid.

The 2nd cop walked into view from across the street.  I don't think that he was her partner.  Maybe there was another car out of sight?

The so-totally-frightened mom wasn't very happy about it: "Get off my son!"

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

yea the two guys were from another dept

[roo_ster]

really?  you would allow a mentally disturbed young man to stomp off? why?

If he did not then present a danger to anyone, what would be the justification of treating him like a King?

(This does presume that a LEO or other person can't just up & thump on someone on the say-so of a third party, in absence of the LEO witnessing some sort of violent behavior by the potential thumpee.)

As for the Austin cop, anything resembling classically liberal views would be looked on very poorly by Austin PD and others in city & county positions of authority.  I would not doubt this sort of thing would not help the officer in question.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

his mommy thought he was enough of a dnager that he was going to the hotel silly  and she was afraid to do it herself.  she have good reasons?  she would know her boy best. his wounds?  did you see the pictures? i've gotten worse from my 4 year old.  today as a matter of fact.  what a nation of sissies we've become