Furnace Breaker

[eyebrows]

So my new house has some furnace issues. Namely there was a leak that allowed condensation to drip on the built in breakers.
I fixed the leak but one of the breakers is not working right, has gone bad.

I'm having a dickens of a time finding a replacement breaker. There are some online for around $170-$190 each, I also found a local supply house that can order them for $134 each but its a 6 to 8 week lead on that.
Of course they have to be some odd ball micro hvac breaker.

Anyone have any idea where I can order one or even if there is a direct replacement from another manufacturer?

It is:
Cutler-Hammer
Type QCD2060
120-240v
HACR rated (important)
Double pole - 60amps per pole

[Nick1911]

One of the HVAC guys here might be able to get one cheaper.

I didn't find anything matching from my suppliers.

[eyebrows]

The local guys either won't sell me a breaker or they want to sell me the whole air handler/heating element assembly.
Arrgh.
Thanks

[280plus]

Try pulling it out and taking it to Home Depot or Loews, or a local hardware store maybe. They might be able to match it up with something they have. Other than the brand I don't see anything unusual about it. get ahold of cutler hammer and see if they have a local distributor.

[Jim147]

Home Depot might not be a bad place to try. You need a lug in/lug out, quicklag surface mount breaker.

Try saying that to the kid working there. 

Do you have the air handler and or heat kit model number? I might be able to find something that way.

jim

[dogmush]

Cutler Hammer is a pain to work with.  My vender has them for about $100, through my .gov account.

These guys:

http://www.galco.com/buy/Eaton-Cutler-Hammer/QCD2060

Are one of my go-to venders for weird electrical stuff, and I'd bet you aren't going to beat that price by much, if at all.

[Jim147]

A SquareD QOU260 should work for you and be easier to find.

I'm checking to see if I have one.

jim

[eyebrows]

I went to Lowes, Home Depot, and Menards on Sunday. They have the typical BR, CH and whatnot type breakers but they all look really confused when you start asking about QCD type micro breakers. I found nothing at the big box hardware stores that was HACR rated.
Why it couldn't be a more standard breaker is beyond me 

So I broke down and called Grainger today. I hate them because they are so unbelievably high in price 99% of the time. But this one time they might show me different. They can order the Cutler-Hammer QCD2060 breaker NEW and he says less than 20 days lead. And all for only $71 each.
I ordered 2 through our account, figured might as well replace both since I'll have it open and they both got wet.

Jim147:
That SquareD might work, it looks similar for mounting. Except the current breakers have a switch for each pole and each side is marked 60amp. I'm not an electrician by trade so I don't know if that makes a difference. The one Grainger has has 2 switches, each marked 60amp.
I can cancel the order if we can find something that works for cheaper.
I will look for model numbers for you when I go out there to work later.

[zxcvbob]

What's wrong with fuses?  (only half-kidding)

[Jim147]

What's wrong with fuses?  (only half-kidding)

If it was really cold and I needed to get it going, I would wire in a 60A fused AC disconnect and have it running until I could find a breaker.

If it was my house I would leave the fused disconnect on it. But I can't do that for a customer. It's a safety device installed by the manufacture and I have to replace it with a like device or worry about my liability insurance and business, if "anything" happens to the unit.

jim

[never_retreat]

If its din rail mount you can use another brand. As long as there is not some sort over cover that needs to line up.
I did some searching but really can seem to find any that are drastically cheaper.
I did find the CH here.
http://www.plccenter.com/Shop/EATON%20CORPORATION/QCD2060/FNFP?source=GoogleShopping&gclid=CJK55drYr7UCFcef4Aod60gA3A
Yes you could replace it with a din rail mount fuse holder, but I'm having trouble finding one that holds a fuse bigger than 30 amps.

[zxcvbob]

https://www.asi-ez.com/member/~QZ213D260.asp?Dept_ID=142

Not sure if it's compatible but might be worth asking.

[eyebrows]

Thanks guys.
There are 2 2-pole breakers total, both the same, only the upper one is bad, lower is working. Luckily we still have the heatpump and half the aux heating working. And we don't live there yet so I keep it at 65.

It's a Trane unit with lots of honeywell things added on(elec air cleaner,humidifier,perfect climate).
Air Handler # 4TEE3F31A1000A
I couldn't find a number for the heat pack.

When I had the home inspected the inspector pointed out the breaker and leak. He had to toggle the breaker a couple times to get it to work.
I've been keeping a eye on it since and noticed it tripped Saturday only now it acts like a dead breaker, won't go open or closed.

If there was for sure a direct replacement breaker for the QCD2060 and it was readily available I'd use it.
Otherwise I'm leary to use other than OEM parts on something like this.
19 days or less according to Grainger until they get me 2 of them. Fingers crossed. Looks like they will be my best bet at $71 each.

https://www.asi-ez.com/member/~QZ213D260.asp?Dept_ID=142

Not sure if it's compatible but might be worth asking.

Not sure on the dimensions but the voltage rating is not the same as what I'm replacing.

[Sergeant Bob]

Have you checked Ebay?

[zxcvbob]

The voltage should be fine (higher is good.)  There's lot of other specs and agency ratings that might not be compatible tho'; this is not my area of expertise.  I just thought it might be worth checking at that price.  Do you have to take a cover panel off to get to the breakers, or are the handles accessible?  The only reason that matters is does it have to fit a hole in the panel.

[eyebrows]

I didn't see any new on ebay. I did see a rebuilt one but it was over 100$ 

There is a small door so you can access the breakers, to remove the whole front panel has to come off. Doesn't look like much extra room.