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A replacement for the hurricane hunters?
« on: September 24, 2012, 10:43:32 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/story/2012/09/24/robot-plane-spying-on-hurricanes/57834730/1

I have read many interesting books and seen some documentaries over the years about the hurricane hunters: flying aircraft near and into hurricanes for scientific research and storm tracking.  Now NASA is testing a Global Hawk to do the same thing.  With a 60,000 foot operating altitude and long-duration flight times, it seems to offer some advantages to the manned missions.  I wonder how long it will be before they start flying the fallout recon missions like G98 did.
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Re: A replacement for the hurricane hunters?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 11:31:54 AM »
It makes sense to not risk life for these missions, which are intended to help save lives.

But it's sorta hard to get up from your chair in front of a computer screen, and swagger  ;)
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Re: A replacement for the hurricane hunters?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 11:57:05 AM »
It makes sense to not risk life for these missions, which are intended to help save lives.

But it's sorta hard to get up from your chair in front of a computer screen, and swagger  ;)

It actually looks like Global Hawk would replace G4 missions, which are flying well above the storm and launching dropsondes into it. That's kind of a picnic flight. The P3s and C-130s would still fly through the storm. Though the Hurricane Hunter pilots I know unanimously prefer hurricanes to what some of them get stuck doing in the off season, which is flying through thunderstorms.
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Re: A replacement for the hurricane hunters?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 01:36:22 PM »
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Though the Hurricane Hunter pilots I know unanimously prefer hurricanes to what some of them get stuck doing in the off season, which is flying through thunderstorms.

A thunderstorm is dramatically more violent than a hurricane. I'd fly through a hurricane, no problem. Would not intentionally fly through a t-storm. Great way to end up dead.
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Re: A replacement for the hurricane hunters?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 07:55:31 PM »
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I have read many interesting books and seen some documentaries over the years about the hurricane hunters: flying aircraft near and into hurricanes for scientific research and storm tracking.  Now NASA is testing a Global Hawk to do the same thing.  With a 60,000 foot operating altitude and long-duration flight times, it seems to offer some advantages to the manned missions.  I wonder how long it will be before they start flying the fallout recon missions like G98 did.

The 53rd WRS (Typhoon Chasers), 54th WRS (Hurricane Hunters) and 55th WRS (Pole Vaulters) all flew the air sampling missions in support of nuclear reconnaissance.  In fact, the external sampling foils and internal P-system as seen on the WC-130Es of the former were the same ones found installed on the WC-135s of the 55th WRS (The two remaining WC-135s now belong to the 55th Wing/45th RS at Offutt AFB).  The U-2 and B-52H sampling and directional radiation finding systems were unique to those two airframes, but you'll know just by looking when they were configured for that mission, no problem.

Regarding the use of a drone to fly nuclear reconnaissance?  It was being researched heavily by my unit when I retired from the mission in 2006.  I have no doubts they're already flying and sampling, but in a restricted envelope - Global Hawks don't like low-altitude stuff, and a good portion of the stuff we hoovered was at transport layer wind altitude. That's the predominant outflow mechanism...
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