teen killed

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

no jesse jackson but his mom is mad  and clueless
"he was just turning his life around " high number sunblock version
http://news.fredericksburg.com/newsdesk/2012/11/21/was-teens-shooting-justified-mother-wants-answers/

you know that when you are almost 18 and they have to go back to your being a bear  cub scout to find something positive the intervening years have been "eventful"

[vaskidmark]

Taking mom's letter at face value and as being correct, there were several pooches screwed.  It is going to take quite a while to sort things out and figure who actually did what when, and then to see if their answer to "Why?" fits in with what everybody else said happened.

Initial news accounts are just so chock full of facts that a firm conclusion can always be drawn just on the information reported.  There is no reason to break out the folding chairs and popcorn.

stay safe.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i wanna know when smacking mom and taking car keys started getting the okey dokey. since he promised he'd give em back in morning of course. i left a comment to mom that if she wanted to hold someone responsible look closer to home. the fls deleted it.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com/newsdesk/files/2012/12/report.pdf

i feel bad for mom .    shes lost

[Hawkmoon]

i feel bad for mom .    shes lost

If you mean "lost" as in delusional ... I would agree.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

yea  you got it.  thats exactly what i mean.  and shes been supported in her delusions by similar moms

[Ron]

The police and the mother are both in the right.

Could the police have used a taser instead of a fire arm? I wouldn't be surprised to find out yes, it could have been used and nobody would have died THAT night.

Yet, if you are threatening the police after assaulting two other people earlier in the evening, the best thing you can do is drop your weapon and assume the position. I wouldn't count on getting tased over lead poisoning. To ask cops to use less lethal force in the face of lethal force is just inane. YMMV

[AmbulanceDriver]

Ron, did you by chance read the report that C&SD posted?  The kid didn't just threaten the officers...  They had gone in through a back entrance and were coming down a set of stairs when he *attacked* them with a 7" long steak knife.  One of the officers suffered a (minor) cut to his arm in the process of defending himself.  This punk was at bad breath distance when he got shot.  The officer used his off arm to block a downward stab that could have resulted in a serious injury or even death.

They entered because the apartment he was in (it was a large house divided into three different living areas) was connected to other areas of the house where (IIRC) the kids of a couple that lived in a different apartment were still in.  Additionally punk had been making statements that he wasn't going back to jail, they were gonna have to shoot him, etc....

[Lee]

Not a comment on this particular event, but cops these days seem to escalate tensions rather than spending time to calm people down. I suppose there are a lot of valid reasons for that, but you have to wonder sometimes.
If the mom really is telling the truth about the cops comments to the kid, he ought to be fired. But that is one of those he said/she said situations.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I feel for Mom but she abdicated her responsibilities as a parent and her kids paid for it. I called suicide by cop. 1 of the mommies rally to her defense was a customer man she cussed me out