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Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« on: January 19, 2013, 07:05:13 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Lw7xa6lHU

This is an old video, but I just found it and thought I'd share. I've been a big fan of Penn and Teller (and not for their magic show) since before the first episode of Bull****. I'm really impressed here by his ability to argue points and "speak their language."

- Argues on an emotional level
- Still gets salient, logical points across
- ZERO openings for counterarguments of "paranoia" and "gun nut."

Bravo, good Sir. Bravo.


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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 08:30:38 PM »
He certainly handled that irrational, sound byte, feel good discussion. He very wisely did not make the error of trying to make his point with logic.  ;)
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 12:03:38 AM »
One of these days I really wish someone would pull a Howard Hughes, "excuse me, I'm speaking!" Talking over someone after asking them a question really annoys me.
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 12:06:34 AM »
Quote from: kgbsquirrel on January 20, 2013, 12:03:38 AM
One of these days I really wish someone would pull a Howard Hughes, "excuse me, I'm speaking!" Talking over someone after asking them a question really annoys me.

I saw Bill O'Reilly do that once. Problem is he was the one doing the interrupting in the first place.  ;/
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 12:18:30 AM »
Nicole Lapin?

She looks to be maybe 25 years old. What -- exactly -- makes her a financial "expert"?

And even if she is (or, perhaps, especially if she is) a financial expert, how does that in any way qualify her to be on a panel discussing gun control? Gawd, she started right out with the lie that "semi-automatic weapons can easily be turned into machine guns." Hello? If you listen to her version, you get the impression that the kid at Sandy Hook used a machine gun, but if he had "only" used a handgun he wouldn't have been able to kill more than two people.

Tell that the the families of the victims at Virginia Tech and Fort Hood.

What a maroon.
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 03:19:08 AM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on January 20, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
"semi-automatic weapons can easily be turned into machine guns."

I suppose that statement is supposed to imply that you can't make a machine gun out of a manual action firearm, right?




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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 12:39:47 PM »
Quote from: kgbsquirrel on January 20, 2013, 03:19:08 AM
I suppose that statement is supposed to imply that you can't make a machine gun out of a manual action firearm, right?




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Interesting.
John Moses Browning took a lever-action Winchester 1873 and made a full-auto gun; he did this to test a principle (to see if the gas pressure could be used to cycle the action).
I've never seen a bolt action converted that way before.
Let's be mean and send the picture to Diane Feinstein & Chuck Schumer!!!!! >:D >:D
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 12:54:22 PM »
They'll just add bolt and pump actions to their ban list.

I'm content with their ignorance, and access to a cnc mill.
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 01:14:58 PM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on January 20, 2013, 12:39:47 PM

Interesting.
John Moses Browning took a lever-action Winchester 1873 and made a full-auto gun; he did this to test a principle (to see if the gas pressure could be used to cycle the action).
I've never seen a bolt action converted that way before.
Let's be mean and send the picture to Diane Feinstein & Chuck Schumer!!!!! >:D >:D

Pederson device to convert the 1903 to autoloader
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 07:09:38 PM »
Quote from: Avenger29 on January 20, 2013, 01:14:58 PM
Pederson device to convert the 1903 to autoloader

Wasn't that semi-auto, though?
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 08:14:25 PM »
Yes.

There are a few other designs though that converted bolt actions to automatic rifles.

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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2013, 10:24:53 PM »
Howell, Reider... what's the top one?
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2013, 10:42:13 PM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on January 20, 2013, 07:09:38 PM
Wasn't that semi-auto, though?

I'm sure that it could be modified to full auto. Just pointing out an example of a bolt action converted to autoloader.

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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2013, 10:55:13 PM »
Quote from: wacki on January 20, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
Howell, Reider... what's the top one?

Huot.
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 01:25:59 AM »
Quote from: wacki on January 20, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
Howell, Reider... what's the top one?


Beautiful, that's what.

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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 02:09:26 AM »
Quote from: fistful on January 21, 2013, 01:25:59 AM

Beautiful, that's what.


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Or someone really into steampunk.
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2013, 02:20:23 AM »
Quote from: Regolith on January 21, 2013, 02:09:26 AM
It's a face only an engineer could love.

Or someone really into steampunk.

Or someone trying to make a Lewis gun out of a Lee Enfield because it's 1916 and they've got plenty of the latter and not enough of the former.  :P
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2013, 02:30:41 AM »
Quote from: kgbsquirrel on January 21, 2013, 02:20:23 AM
Or someone trying to make a Lewis gun out of a Lee Enfield because it's 1916 and they've got plenty of the latter and not enough of the former.  :P

I'm not saying it's a bad gun, it's just...aesthetically challenged.  ;)
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Re: Penn Gillette on Sandy Hook
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2013, 07:14:29 PM »
I'd like a Lapin dance. She definately wins the hot in hot talk...until she spoke.
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