Ikea Tells Takoma Park Police Chief "No Weapons Allowed"

[Ben]

While of course Ikea was stupid for their "no guns" policy, I found it somewhat comical and karma-like that the police chief had to face the same situation any of us would, and was very adamant that he would never lock his weapon in his car in a public parking lot.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Chief-in-Uniform-Told-to-Leave-Gun-Outside-Ikea-266105531.html?partner=nbcnews

[Strings]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

[cordex]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

Agreed.

[T.O.M.]

Too bad they backed down.  It would have been good precedent, IMO.

[wmenorr67]

The store has signs posted on the front door that read "Weapons Free Victim Rich Environment."

[Hawkmoon]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

I'm Hawkmoon and I approve of this message.

[fifth_column]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

You want our vaunted protectors to follow the same laws they've sworn to uphold?!?!?!?!?  What?!?!?!?   

Do you think they became cops to follow the law?  No!  They became cops in order to get away with breaking the law!!!

/bashing

[cordex]

You want our vaunted protectors to follow the same laws they've sworn to uphold?!?!?!?!?  What?!?!?!?   

Do you think they became cops to follow the law?  No!  They became cops in order to get away with breaking the law!!!

/bashing

When did Ikea get a law passed?

[Ned Hamford]

It does vary by location but many hold that law enforcement officials are always on duty.  If they are within their jurisdiction and they see some wrongdoing; they are obligated to intercede. 
Those locations become really fun when paid part time, but sworn always on duty LEOs, are hired for private security.

[KD5NRH]

It does vary by location but many hold that law enforcement officials are always on duty.  If they are within their jurisdiction and they see some wrongdoing; they are obligated to intercede.

Maybe on duty, but that whole "officer's discretion" crap means they're really not obligated to do anything, at any time.

AFAICT, at least for Texas, a sheriff (and possibly his deputies - not sure how that works outside their shift) is required by the state Constitution to arrest and deliver before a magistrate any person he observes committing a criminal offense.  No time or place restrictions.  (Interestingly, nothing limits this duty to his county, either.)

[Jamisjockey]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

I disagree.  If you've got the balls to post a no weapons policy, you should see it through to the end.  No weapons, period, not even on LEOs doing their duty.

[fifth_column]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

I disagree.  If you've got the balls to post a no weapons policy, you should see it through to the end.  No weapons, period, not even on LEOs doing their duty.

Jamis, it appears you're actually in agreement with Strings here . . . .

 

[makattak]

I'm sorry, but I see no reason for any exemption for LEO unless they are preforming their sworn duties (newsflash: shopping for furniture ain't such)

I disagree.  If you've got the balls to post a no weapons policy, you should see it through to the end.  No weapons, period, not even on LEOs doing their duty.

Jamis, it appears you're actually in agreement with Strings here . . . .

 

I disagree. If you say the words "I disagree" at the beginning, you are not in agreement. No words, no disagreement.

[fifth_column]

I disagree. If you say the words "I disagree" at the beginning, you are not in agreement. No words, no disagreement.

I agree that stating "I disagree" means that person is disagreeable . . . .

 

[cordex]

I agree that stating "I disagree" means that person is disagreeable . . . .

I think his point was that Strings was wrong to make an exception for LEOs on duty, while jamis thinks that if the policy is "no guns" it should apply to cops even on duty.

[fifth_column]

I think his point was that Strings was wrong to make an exception for LEOs on duty, while jamis thinks that if the policy is "no guns" it should apply to cops even on duty.

I might have read Strings original statement incorrectly.  To me it sounds like he's saying LEO should NOT have exemption to the no guns policy, unless they're responding in an official capacity.  Which is the same thing JJ was saying.

I really meant it to be light-hearted. . . .

[cordex]

I might have read Strings original statement incorrectly.  To me it sounds like he's saying LEO should NOT have exemption to the no guns policy, unless they're responding in an official capacity.

That's how I read Strings too.  But jamis said:

No weapons, period, not even on LEOs doing their duty.

Thus the disagreement.

Internet.  Serious business.

[Strings]

Seems y'all read it right

And the only reason I put the "in the performance of their duty" in there is we really can't legally tell our Masters' hatchetmen "no"

[Jamisjockey]

That's how I read Strings too.  But jamis said:Thus the disagreement.

Internet.  Serious business.

This.  It's a shame that places like Ikea can't fully
A) reap what they sow
B) fully enjoy the actual freedom of association