Homeland Security Raids Counterfeiting Operation in Las Vegas

[Doggy Daddy]

Is it just me, or does it seem that DHS is expanding their realm of powah?

Special agents for Homeland Security raided a house near Bonanza Road and Eastern Avenue Friday.

According to a special agent, the house, in the 2000 block of Walnut Avenue, was raided for running a high-quality counterfeit document operation. The operation was providing such fake documents as driver's licenses, residency cards and college degrees, the agent said.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/21310598/homeland-security-raids-house-for-producing-fake-documents?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lasvegasnow%2Fhomepage+(8NewsNOW.com+-+Local+Headlines)

[TechMan]

Got them on the residency cards, since Immigration falls under DHS.

[brimic]

What's the difference if if an illegal has a fake license or ID? Its not like they are going to get deported if they didn't have it...

[brimic]

Is it just me, or does it seem that DHS is expanding their realm of powah?

I think we will see a lot of DHS activity in the coming months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pS9aw5pcJo&feature=youtu.be

[Strings]

If you cock your head to the side and squint a bit, you can see jurisdiction for DHS on counterfeit docs...

[Nick1911]

I suspect the goal of DHS is simply a way to bypass the posse comitatus act.  A standing military operating domestically, just not named as such.

[Fitz]

It was probably CBP's OFO, or ICE, or Any of the other various branches of border security which falls under dhs


I'll find out Monday

[Blakenzy]

I suspect the goal of DHS is simply a way to bypass the posse comitatus act.  A standing military operating domestically, just not named as such.

A paramilitary national police force. Every dictatorship has one.

Us dumb Americans never saw it coming... we were too busy being scared of the trrsts, giving the Government all kinds of free passes on abuse. So unbelievably dumb.

[birdman]

If you cock your head to the side and squint a bit, you can see jurisdiction for DHS on counterfeit docs...

Really?  You don't have to squint at all, USSS is part of DHS, and their jurisdiction includes counterfeiting.

[dogmush]

A paramilitary national police force. Every dictatorship has one.

Us dumb Americans never saw it coming... we were too busy being scared of the trrsts, giving the Government all kinds of free passes on abuse. So unbelievably dumb.

If the clowns at DHS are the best the gov can do for a paramilitary force, we can all relax a little bit. The USCG is the most military force they have.

[Doggy Daddy]

If you cock your head to the side and squint a bit, you can see jurisdiction for DHS on counterfeit docs...

Seriously?!? That's what The Vapors were singing about???

[Doggy Daddy]

Interesting coincidence?  The raided residence is about a half mile walk from a Hell's Angels clubhouse.     I wonder how a DHS raid would've gone over there...

[MechAg94]

What would a fake college degree get you?  Doesn't just about every employer run background checks on new employees these days?

[Doggy Daddy]

What would a fake college degree get you?  Doesn't just about every employer run background checks on new employees these days?

Hang it on your wall.
Sucker the public.
Be your own employer.
Profit?

Certificate of Graduation
Dr. MechAg94
OBGYN

[mtnbkr]

Interesting coincidence?  The raided residence is about a half mile walk from a Hell's Angels clubhouse.     I wonder how a DHS raid would've gone over there...

Just fine considering components of DHS have done it before.

Chris

[Gewehr98]

I thought counterfeiting was the Secret Service's domain? 

(Or is that just for counterfeit money?)

[erictank]

I thought counterfeiting was the Secret Service's domain? 

(Or is that just for counterfeit money?)

Pretty sure that's just money.

[birdman]

Pretty sure that's just money.

Not just money, all financial instruments, and passports are CBP, BOTH of which are in DHS

[dm1333]

If the clowns at DHS are the best the gov can do for a paramilitary force, we can all relax a little bit. The USCG is the most military force they have.

You had better fear the worlds 12th largest navy!

[RoadKingLarry]

Interesting coincidence?  The raided residence is about a half mile walk from a Hell's Angels clubhouse.     I wonder how a DHS raid would've gone over there...

Biker clubhouses get raided fairly regularly, I've yet to hear of any serious armed resistance.

[AZRedhawk44]

Really?  You don't have to squint at all, USSS is part of DHS, and their jurisdiction includes counterfeiting.

Counterfeiting the nation's currency.  Not just counterfeiting in general.

Drivers' licenses are state documents, not federal ones.  College degrees are private certifications, not government ones.  The only "federal" item on that list would be residency cards, which falls under ICE.

[never_retreat]

I thought counterfeiting was the Secret Service's domain? 

(Or is that just for counterfeit money?)

I believe it is only currency and possibly stamps.

Passports, green cards, etc I think would fall under customs. If it is a cross border counterfeiting ring I think the FBI would be involved.

[brimic]

Counterfeiting the nation's currency.  Not just counterfeiting in general.

Yep. .Gov is very protective of their monopoly of printing funny money.

[birdman]

I believe it is only currency and possibly stamps.

Passports, green cards, etc I think would fall under customs. If it is a cross border counterfeiting ring I think the FBI would be involved.

Its all financial instruments.

Also, CBP and ICE are also in DHS, so between those and USSS, it covers everything but private documents (college diplomas, unless those are used to prove residency), ie everything but private fraud.  Making a fake license for a citizen (ie a minor to buy booze) is a state LEO responsibility...doing so across state lines, FBI, doing so for an illegal alien, DHS.

So where is the argument?  If there were financial instruments or documents used for immigration/residency confirmation, it would fall under DHS. 

[longeyes]

I suspect the goal of DHS is simply a way to bypass the posse comitatus act.  A standing military operating domestically, just not named as such.

Ring the gong.