Deal alert: glorified gun cabinet at harbor freight.

[French G.]

Thinking of holesaw venting areas not accessible once installed, that would handle venting. I hope to have 50lbs of powder, no luck so far.

[AJ Dual]

Sorry for the minor thread necromancy...

But this thread motivated me to get more organized, and clean up my piles of "gun stuff" and get all the rifle/carbine and Saiga 12 magazines that don't fit easily into the safe into something more secure, seeing as in the current market they're potentially irreplaceable as the guns themselves.

Found the old Stack-On upper pistol cabinet I've had for about 20 years now. It's been gathering dust since before my last move in 2000. I'd lost the key for the lower rifle cabinet in a prior move, and on a range day with friends I'd just pried my way in with my biggest Craftsman screwdriver and a ball-peen hammer. Once that was trashed, the smaller top-cabinet just went into the "too useless to use, to nice to throw away" pile.



Lag bolted into the studs sitting on top of the main safe, it's kind of hard to access sandwiched in there, denying leverage a bit, and provides a bit less access to the safe itself holding it down from the top.  (as if the anchor wedges aren't enough) I wish I could have tucked it all the way into the corner, denying even more leverage to an attack, but the studs don't line up that way. 

Now if I only had something for the ammo. I've thought about running a long chain through all my ammo cans, but that would be more of a PITA for me than a burglar.  

[Boomhauer]

AJ it would be easy to fab up a locking rack for the USGI ammo cans. Metal frame, top bar or frame securing all with a single lock, hinged to swing up/open.

[RevDisk]

AJ it would be easy to fab up a locking rack for the USGI ammo cans. Metal frame, top bar or frame securing all with a single lock, hinged to swing up/open.

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/ammo-cans-storage-containers/ammo-can-lock-a-3-piece-can-it-system.html

[Boomhauer]

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/ammo-cans-storage-containers/ammo-can-lock-a-3-piece-can-it-system.html

All that does is lock them not prevent a thief from hauling it off to bust it opem later.

Im talking about a fixed bolted in place rack that would secure them from being toted off.

[41magsnub]

That does sound like a really simple welding project!

Maybe I should design and make one as a prototype when I have the welder out in a week....  I have maybe 20 .50 and .30 call ammo cans full of various ammo in the garage not secured in any fashion.

[AJ Dual]

All that does is lock them not prevent a thief from hauling it off to bust it opem later.

Im talking about a fixed bolted in place rack that would secure them from being toted off.

Yeah, I've got seven .30 cal M60 style cans, an older oddball side-opening .50 or something, and one big 40mm Mk19 can that the lid comes off of completely. That many padlocks would be just as bad. Although if they were locked, the effort/value of running a chain through all their handles would be a bit better, I admit.

What I really would like is something like one of those contractor-job lockable tool boxes, the kind where the padlocks are also protected inside the square tubes, with only key-face access so cutting the hasps is impossible.. But I never seem to see them up for sale used at a decent price that's worth it.

[RevDisk]

All that does is lock them not prevent a thief from hauling it off to bust it opem later.

Im talking about a fixed bolted in place rack that would secure them from being toted off.

It does if you run a steel cable or chain through the hasp of the padlock. 

Easy to remove one at a time. Removing all of them in one sitting would be slowed down, but it wouldn't be that bad if same keyed.

Yeah, I've got seven .30 cal M60 style cans, an older oddball side-opening .50 or something, and one big 40mm Mk19 can that the lid comes off of completely. That many padlocks would be just as bad. Although if they were locked, the effort/value of running a chain through all their handles would be a bit better, I admit.

Unless they were same keyed.

What I really would like is something like one of those contractor-job lockable tool boxes, the kind where the padlocks are also protected inside the square tubes, with only key-face access so cutting the hasps is impossible.. But I never seem to see them up for sale used at a decent price that's worth it. http://racine.craigslist.org/for/3632735132.html

Everyone wants 75% of retail. I guess I should look for the aging postings, and then contact them with offers. At those prices, I'm better off with just a Chinastan RSC when they go on sale.

...

I want.

[AJ Dual]

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/tls/3665852868.html

Better. Although I still can't bring myself to pay an NFA stamp +50 for it yet. I'm in more for like $150. And I'd have to ditch the wheels. And I'd guess mid-winter or the end of winter when these things are more likely to just be sitting rather than securing all the tools on a jobsite is when you want to be buying.

What is nice is that it would make for some more work-surface area when it's shut at least.

[Scout26]

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/ammo-cans-storage-containers/ammo-can-lock-a-3-piece-can-it-system.html

And unless you weld that bolt into the can, you have to drill a hole through the can, ruining its environmental sealing and protective properties.  

I'm not sure what the metal bar does that this doesn't.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Cal-Ammo-Can-Lock-Kit-Store-5-56-223-9mm-45-cal-Securely-/150995087004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2328022e9c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ammo-Can-Lock-50-cal-5-56-SAW-W-Metal-Master-Lock-No-Can-Free-Shipping-/140937673894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d08a3ca6

[Jamisjockey]

At the price and availability of ammo and magazines, I'm strongly considering another safe.  Probably just a stackon or even maybe one from HF.

[AJ Dual]

And unless you weld that bolt into the can, you have to drill a hole through the can, ruining its environmental sealing and protective properties.  

I'm not sure what the metal bar does that this doesn't.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Cal-Ammo-Can-Lock-Kit-Store-5-56-223-9mm-45-cal-Securely-/150995087004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2328022e9c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ammo-Can-Lock-50-cal-5-56-SAW-W-Metal-Master-Lock-No-Can-Free-Shipping-/140937673894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d08a3ca6

$7 and $12 respectively for what is essentially a big rivet with a hole through it and some O-rings?

I am in the wrong line of work.  

At the price and availability of ammo and magazines, I'm strongly considering another safe.  Probably just a stackon or even maybe one from HF.

And I'm thinking more and more along these lines. If I HAD to, I can carefully stack all of those magazines in the main safe. It would just be a ginormous PITA for day-to-day access, carefully lifting them all out one by one before I moved a rifle. (the rifle shuffle is bad enough as it is...) Or over time, the bigger rifle magazines would stretch out the pockets in the door organizer to an unacceptable degree. And I could get some ammo in there too. (put all I could in the mags to be space-efficient) Then I'd have at least enough for a basic combat load/SHTF supply should my house get ransacked, but they not penetrate the main safe.

And that main safe is an expensive bit of kit in it's own right. I certainly don't have any individual firearms that cost as much as that safe, even at the current, or even the peak panic prices on EBR's we've seen lately.

Ideally, should I get off my ass to do so, all the mags and a minimum supply of ammo should go in the main safe when I leave on a vacation etc. for more than 1-2 days, and then "junk" and lesser bulk ammo etc. go into the secondary cabinets, maybe with some airguns, and one or two of my cheapest most common milsurp rifles, cheap costume jewelry, and our older unused electronics to make them think they "got enough" and not mess up my big safe.