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Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« on: April 28, 2013, 09:56:49 AM »
I realize there are a lot of "hooray Bush" stories coming out now because of the library, but I saw this one and couldn't help but give a thumbs up to the irony. It's written by a liberal who acknowledges how she and other liberals, as well as Africans, were excited and anticipating a "great new world" for the African continent from America's "first black president", but have now found it was really Bush who stepped up in that regard.

A president's color should be non-sequitor to what they do, yet progressives who "don't see color" really rallied around Obama's color as an indicator of how he would interact with, and help other "black" people and "black" nations.  Turns out they were mostly wrong and it's what's under our skin that defines us.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/25/george-w-bush-has-saved-more-lives-than-any-american-president/
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 12:15:11 PM »
Maybe they'll take back somebodies Nobel Peace Prize and give it to GW?  =D

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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 12:24:44 PM »
Correctly titled:  Bush redistributed more wealth to Africa then Obama.....not something to be proud of IMHO.....
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 01:19:12 PM »
Correctly titled:  Bush redistributed more wealth to Africa then Obama.....not something to be proud of IMHO.....

Yeah, I was trying to remember in how many massacres GWB intervened...?   ;/
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 01:35:42 PM »
Correctly titled:  Bush redistributed more wealth to Africa then Obama.....not something to be proud of IMHO.....

^^This.  Obama wins this mark, IMO.  Less foreign interventionism and gratis foreign aid is a good thing.

Now if Obama would just lay off the UN fanboi-ism and Euroweenie socialism policies and Kaynesian economics, maybe some good things would come about.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 01:37:58 PM »
^^This.  Obama wins this mark, IMO.  Less foreign interventionism and gratis foreign aid is a good thing.

Now if Obama would just lay off the UN fanboi-ism and Euroweenie socialism policies and Kaynesian economics, maybe some good things would come about.

Not to mention coming down like hateful conservative on the medical marijuana folks  ;/
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 01:57:34 PM »
Yep, any minute now... Obama will morph into our great Libertarian hope. :rofl:
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 10:33:47 PM »
... it's what's under our skin that defines us.


I would like to nominate this quote from Ben as  the official statement/signature line/defining statement of APS.  It is not only an absolutely true statement about humans, but a quality about the embers of APS which has brought me back time and again.

Sorry for the thread drift...
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 11:24:35 PM »
I would like to nominate this quote from Ben as  the official statement/signature line/defining statement of APS.  It is not only an absolutely true statement about humans, but a quality about the embers of APS which has brought me back time and again.

Dammit man!  I told myself I wouldn't cry...  :'(
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 11:32:03 PM »
I would like to nominate this quote from Ben as  the official statement/signature line/defining statement of APS.  It is not only an absolutely true statement about humans, but a quality about the embers of APS which has brought me back time and again.

Sorry for the thread drift...

K, I'll bite on this attempt at lauding international government aid...


I realize there are a lot of "hooray Bush" stories coming out now because of the library, but I saw this one and couldn't help but give a thumbs up to the irony. It's written by a liberal who acknowledges how she and other liberals, as well as Africans, were excited and anticipating a "great new world" for the African continent from America's "first black president", but have now found it was really Bush who stepped up in that regard.

Stepped up... taking money from Americans at gunpoint and giving it to Africa?

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A president's color should be non-sequitor to what they do, yet progressives who "don't see color" really rallied around Obama's color as an indicator of how he would interact with, and help other "black" people and "black" nations.  Turns out they were mostly wrong and it's what's under our skin that defines us.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/25/george-w-bush-has-saved-more-lives-than-any-american-president/

Obama's redistributionism at least keeps the tax-theft mostly domestic.  A greater rate, and a greater certainty in his moral compass of doing so... but the money stays in this country at least.

Neither of them appreciate the moral hazard that nothing done by government through taxes is charitable.  And allowing Bush to receive credit for a supposedly charitable action that is derived from the wealth of taxpayers compelled at the barrel of a gun, rather than from his own wealth, is hypocritical.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 02:36:00 AM »
This is laughable, acting all indignant that GWB gave away more of our money than Obama is nuts.  The only reason Obama hasn't given away more money is the stinking government is broke.  Also, giving away money to foreign nations has gone on since the founding of this country when we paid off the Barbary coast pirates.  The whole system sucks, but don't down on GWB for this anymore than you would Regan for doing the same thing.  All the Presidents have done it conservative ones and liberal ones.


I forgot to add, GWB was never a conservative, he was a moderate at best, slightly right of center.  Libs like to paint him as the evil right winger, but nothing could be further from the truth.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 06:29:34 AM »
While I would support abolishing foreign aid, at least true emergency aid and money for the war on AIDS actually helps ill and starving people. It is one of the less horrible uses of the state.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 08:08:59 AM »
I am sure that all aid has plenty of strings attached.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 08:10:30 AM »
I realize there are a lot of "hooray Bush" stories coming out now because of the library, but I saw this one and couldn't help but give a thumbs up to the irony. It's written by a liberal who acknowledges how she and other liberals, as well as Africans, were excited and anticipating a "great new world" for the African continent from America's "first black president", but have now found it was really Bush who stepped up in that regard.

A president's color should be non-sequitor to what they do, yet progressives who "don't see color" really rallied around Obama's color as an indicator of how he would interact with, and help other "black" people and "black" nations.  Turns out they were mostly wrong and it's what's under our skin that defines us.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/25/george-w-bush-has-saved-more-lives-than-any-american-president/


Some o' y'all are missing the point.  The left thinks that aid to Africa is a wonderful thing. The left thinks that the left-wing, black President would be more likely to help Africa than the racist, war-mongering, white, "conservative" President. But it ain't so.

You don't have to agree with Bush's Africa policy to appreciate that, especially when it's a leftist going through the agony of figuring it out.  :lol:
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 09:28:21 AM »
Thank you fistful.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 09:30:09 AM »
I would like to nominate this quote from Ben as  the official statement/signature line/defining statement of APS.  It is not only an absolutely true statement about humans, but a quality about the embers of APS which has brought me back time and again.

Sorry for the thread drift...

Thanks Chris, though I think I'm still keeping Mtnbkr's quote as my sig line.  =D =D
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 02:57:48 PM »
I am sure that all aid has plenty of strings attached.

I hope so.
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Re: Bush Saved More African Lives Than Obama
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 03:42:39 PM »
I forgot to add, GWB was never a conservative, he was a moderate at best, slightly right of center.  Libs like to paint him as the evil right winger, but nothing could be further from the truth.

"GWB is an atheistic stalinist."  <----Further from the truth.
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