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Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« on: October 10, 2013, 05:40:37 PM »
Found this link under the headline "Crazzzzy Code!" Apparently, this is some of the code underlying the sign-up page for Obamacare.

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https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/registration.js

Related article: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57606633/obamacare-website-looks-like-nobody-tested-it-programmer-says/
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 06:26:10 PM »
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["It's not even close. It's not even ready for beta testing for my book. I would be ashamed and embarrassed if my organization delivered something like that," he said.

They probably outsourced the development to India  :facepalm:


I'm not a web design programmer.  I just work on simple stuff like jet engine controllers and related maintenance and test software.   =D
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 06:35:39 PM »
I would be interested to see what some other members of APS Hivemind who do this kind of work think of this bit o' code.  
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 06:42:27 PM »
Well - normally you would break something like this up into modules, and you would have line breaks and "whitespace" and comments for maintenance.

I have no clue what the flow of execution is  ;/
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 07:14:54 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on October 10, 2013, 06:42:27 PM
I have no clue what the flow of execution is  ;/

Apparently nobody else does, either -- least of all the people who wrote it.

Question: IS there a "flow of execution" is the code is so flawed that it doesn't execute?
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 07:55:06 PM »
Looks like a language library deployed in JavaScript. I have never seen it done that way.

Typically that would be server side and behind the scenes. You would have one for each language your site supports.
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 08:42:19 PM »
That whole lowest bidder thing again.
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 09:40:45 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on October 10, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
That whole lowest bidder thing again.

I don't know but, considering they reportedly spent $634,000,000 on getting the website up I'm wondering if they bid it at all.

Probably someone in our beloved govt (along with their friends) had the "lowest" bid.

Something rotten in Washington.
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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 09:44:35 PM »
Quote from: Sergeant Bob on October 10, 2013, 09:40:45 PM
I don't know but, considering they reportedly spent $634,000,000 on getting the website up I'm wondering if they bid it at all.

Probably someone in our beloved govt (along with their friends) had the "lowest" bid.

Something rotten in Washington.

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Re: Paging Mr. Tall Pine. Mr.Pine to the red crisis phone, please!
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 10:11:29 PM »
I have built such systems.  Two of them.  One for benefits administration (DB, DC, Life, and Health).  The other is a test prep system for 11 million students.

This is not that hard.  I cannot comprehend this cost.  I cannot comprehend 1/10th this cost.  The developers I know from those places cannot comprehend this cost.  300M users who log on once a year just isn't that much.  Considering that less than 10% of the population will use it, that's about $20 a head.  For 20 minutes of work.  $60/ hr employees could do punch card entry over the phone for that.

Bet they even sprung for HANA.  Idiots.
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