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Noah: Yet another take on the movie
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:01:34 AM »
An observation or point to ponder on Sunday after church: 
Quote from: Dr. Brian Mattson
http://drbrianmattson.com/journal/2014/3/31/sympathy-for-the-devil
Darren Aronofsky has produced a retelling of the Noah story without reference to the Bible at all. This was not, as he claimed, just a storied tradition of run-of-the-mill Jewish “Midrash.” This was a thoroughly pagan retelling of the Noah story direct from Kabbalist and Gnostic sources. To my mind, there is simply no doubt about this.

So let me tell you what the real scandal in all of this is.

It isn’t that he made a film that departed from the biblical story. It isn’t that disappointed and overheated Christian critics had expectations set too high.

The scandal is this: of all the Christian leaders who went to great lengths to endorse this movie (for whatever reasons: “it’s a conversation starter,” “at least Hollywood is doing something on the Bible,” etc.), and all of the Christian leaders who panned it for “not following the Bible”…

Not one of them could identify a blatantly Gnostic subversion of the biblical story when it was right in front of their faces.
The quote is just a small part of the link.  If you have any interest, please follow the link.


I'm not familiar with Dr. Brian Mattson.  I'm vaguely familiar with Gnosticism and Kabbalah.  I enjoyed "Pi", and have a copy of it around here somewhere.  Need to watch it again now.

I'm hoping to see further discussion and explanation of the above from those here who are more knowledgeable about these things than I am.
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Re: Noah: Yet another take on the movie
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 10:17:11 AM »
Isaac Asimov had a pretty good analysis of the engineering problems of the Ark event in his book, "Asimov's Guide to The Bible."

Amusing and disturbing all at once.

Like with respect to mundane things regarding ventilation, hay storage, the question of feeding the carnivores, and manure disposal.

Stuff like that there.

Amusing and disturbing.

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Re: Noah: Yet another take on the movie
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 10:49:41 AM »
I'm not sure why anyone expected Hollywood to hew in any way close to the Bible, or to any story they crib from. What most annoys is that Hollywood can't just let a good story tell itself. I would think you'd have all the elements of a good film right there in Genesis. You have a man who feels called to follow a strange path, though it makes no sense to anyone else. You have three sons and four wives (Noah's wife, and his daughters-in-law) who, whether by choice or necessity, are drawn into it. Do they understand and sympathize, or do they feel put upon or oppressed by their family obligations? Then, of course, you have the whole building a massive ship thing, the animals, the deluge, the whole world drowning, the finding of dry land, the rainbow. You could even include the Noachide laws, and/or the curse on Canaan, if you can fit those in. You could end with the building of Babel, if you wanted to go out on a somber note. But, no, the director must share with us his VISION.  ;/

It was kinda cool that they included Methuselah. He died right at the time of the flood (perhaps in the flood), but most folks miss that.



Isaac Asimov had a pretty good analysis of the engineering problems of the Ark event in his book, "Asimov's Guide to The Bible."

Somehow, I doubt that.  =)

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Re: Noah: Yet another take on the movie
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 11:05:17 AM »
We'll have to call it early quantum state phenomenon.
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Re: Noah: Yet another take on the movie
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 02:46:50 PM »
Haven't seen it yet but it looked like it could be pretty good. There is obviously going to be more to the story than what is in the bible.
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Re: Re: Re: Noah: Yet another take on the movie
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2014, 04:19:45 PM »
Haven't seen it yet but it looked like it could be pretty good. There is obviously going to be more to the story than what is in the bible.

Reviews from folk whose reviews i give weight they did less with the substance and more with the baloney. 

Like fistful i am astounded when hollywood takes a compelling story and replaces hand crafted chocolate eclairs with deep fried twinkies.
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