High SPF people cannot handle the junk

[MillCreek]

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-14/whites-account-for-the-entire-jump-in-heroin-deaths#r=nav-f-story


So it seems to be the high SPF people dying from heroin.  Interesting.

[Nick1911]

high... SPF?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I should a trademarked that

I think it's a spike in quality killing the suburban pill poppers switching up when their pill connection gets popped

[AJ Dual]

LOL...

"Higher SPF people"....

It's actually TRUE. http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/redhead-anesthesia.htm

Redheads might actually need to take more smack to get the same high, if it's already known that it takes 20% more aneshtesia to get them under for surgery.

I never get fully numb at the dentist, I just have to gut it out... Usually the lidocaine (they don't really use novacaine much anymore...) works well enough that it doesn't hurt... much. But it never dulls the sensations of hot/cold or the "funny bone" electric feelings the drill causes.

I also woke up during the two surgical procedures I've had during my life, first was my appendectomy when I was 19 back in '92, tried to say something into my intubation hose. Fortunately I was on my way back down already as my vitals showed I was waking up and they were turning up the gas and the ketamine or whatever it was in my IV, I was only told about it later in recovery. Now it was clear they were really worried I'd felt the whole procedure and they were feeling me out about it.

 Then it happened again back in '10 when I was getting a heart Electrophysiology catheterization. I thought I was being helpful when I lifted my arm to my chest, pointed and said "Yeah, I can feel it poking around right here... seems like you're close... The port in my thigh only hurts a little.."  and the radiologist snatched my hand out of the fluoroscope, and the cardiologist barked at the nurse to push more Versed.

I hadn't realized that 20 minutes had already passed and was continuing the conversation with the doctors and nurses when I'd been put under in the first place. I remember being kind of surprised they got the catheter up into my chest so fast...   

[cambeul41]

Nick –

Sun Protection Factor (SPF) = sunscreen using honkies.

(Off-topic: When I was teaching in Detroit, I got some startled expressions when I referred to myself as a honkie when talking to a room full of Blacks.    — until they got used to me.)

[roo_ster]

Yep, takes more opiates and similar drugs to have an effect on me. 

[MillCreek]

high... SPF?

This is one of the most useful things I have learned from CSD.  I thought it was such a charming description that I made sure to remember it.

[MillCreek]

I should a trademarked that

I think it's a spike in quality killing the suburban pill poppers switching up when their pill connection gets popped

My anecdotal experience in our healthcare system agrees with you.  With the crackdown on narcotic prescribing, it is now cheaper to buy heroin in Seattle than Oxycontin or Vicodin on the street.   If there is a twitch in the purity level of the heroin, the users start keeling over.  Narcan for all first responders is my motto these days.

[SADShooter]

My anecdotal experience in our healthcare system agrees with you.  With the crackdown on narcotic prescribing, it is now cheaper to buy heroin in Seattle than Oxycontin or Vicodin on the street.   If there is a twitch in the purity level of the heroin, the users start keeling over.  Narcan for all first responders is my motto these days.

Especially if the first responder has an oopsie after rummaging in the drug cabinet and decides they need to self-administer...

[onions!]

We all know that there's too many white people.Just another way of thinning the herd.

 

[MechAg94]

Nick –

Sun Protection Factor (SPF) = sunscreen using honkies.

(Off-topic: When I was teaching in Detroit, I got some startled expressions when I referred to myself as a honkie when talking to a room full of Blacks.    — until they got used to me.)

I assumed you meant the opposite, meaning people with naturally high SPF. 

If I can't use the N word, no one else should use the H word.   

[MechAg94]

I would be curious what the demographics of heroin use are versus other drugs.

[Boomhauer]

My anecdotal experience in our healthcare system agrees with you.  With the crackdown on narcotic prescribing, it is now cheaper to buy heroin in Seattle than Oxycontin or Vicodin on the street.   If there is a twitch in the purity level of the heroin, the users start keeling over.  Narcan for all first responders is my motto these days.

One of my former coworkers had a sister that moved to LA for a "modeling job"...she got roped into the drug scene and ended up as a heroin tester. What's a tester, you ask...it's someone who gets all the free heroin they want because they are testing the batches for purity...one bad batch and they die.

[onions!]

One of my former coworkers had a sister that moved to LA for a "modeling job"...she got roped into the drug scene and ended up as a heroin tester. What's a tester, you ask...it's someone who gets all the free heroin they want because they are testing the batches for purity...one bad batch and they die.

Did she at least get a decent dental plan?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I would be curious what the demographics of heroin use are versus other drugs.

The demographics are changing. It's real big amongst younger suburban kids now. Stuff so pure they don't need to shoot it or smoke it. They snort it. It's makes the old process different slightly

[cordex]

The demographics are changing. It's real big amongst younger suburban kids now. Stuff so pure they don't need to shoot it or smoke it.

We are seeing this here too. A few years ago and heroin overdoses and busts were pretty rare in our county - mostly overflow from a county over. Now they are downright common. I think there is significant fluctuation in quality, though, which exacerbates the problem.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

And inexperienced users. One problem is folks stepping on it. Then when a batch doesn't get stepped on its twice as strong. Hello super nod

[cambeul41]

MechAg94 —

I assumed you meant the opposite, meaning people with naturally high SPF. 

If I can't use the N word, no one else should use the H word.   

It was not I who used the term, I was guessing the meaning from context. Out of context, your guess is just as good.

The permissibility of the N and H words (along with others), too, can be very context sensitive. One of my goals while teaching students who "don't look like me" in Detroit was to convey the understanding that we could discuss nearly anything as long as we were not directing hostility toward each other. A student could ask me, "Hey, Mr. C, would it bother you if we referred to you as a red-neck cracker?" (Yes, I was asked that.) The answer was somewhere along the lines of, "Well that would partly depend on the attitude accompanying the words, but since I am not a red-neck cracker, I might be bewildered rather than insulted."

[Jamisjockey]

I should a trademarked that

I think it's a spike in quality killing the suburban pill poppers switching up when their pill connection gets popped

While it pains me to admit, I have a suspicion he's right.

[Sergeant Bob]

Then it happened again back in '10 when I was getting a heart Electrophysiology catheterization. I thought I was being helpful when I lifted my arm to my chest, pointed and said "Yeah, I can feel it poking around right here... seems like you're close... The port in my thigh only hurts a little.."  and the radiologist snatched my hand out of the fluoroscope, and the cardiologist barked at the nurse to push more Versed.

I hadn't realized that 20 minutes had already passed and was continuing the conversation with the doctors and nurses when I'd been put under in the first place. I remember being kind of surprised they got the catheter up into my chest so fast...   

I had a heart catheterization myself, and was awake for the whole thing. I watched the whole procedure on the monitor, and felt a "twinge" in my heart when they injected the dye. Fascinating.

[MechAg94]

MechAg94 —

It was not I who used the term, I was guessing the meaning from context. Out of context, your guess is just as good.

The permissibility of the N and H words (along with others), too, can be very context sensitive. One of my goals while teaching students who "don't look like me" in Detroit was to convey the understanding that we could discuss nearly anything as long as we were not directing hostility toward each other. A student could ask me, "Hey, Mr. C, would it bother you if we referred to you as a red-neck cracker?" (Yes, I was asked that.) The answer was somewhere along the lines of, "Well that would partly depend on the attitude accompanying the words, but since I am not a red-neck cracker, I might be bewildered rather than insulted."

I was at least half joking, probably more.  Not a big deal.  I notice the people who use the H word nearly always seem to be the same poeple who commonly use the N (or is that K?) word.  I am not talking about white rednecks either. 

Honestly, compared to when I was growing up in the 80's, the common use of the N word among white people I have been around is nearly nonexistent.  Things have changed a great deal, though you wouldn't know that to watch the news.

[BlueStarLizzard]

LOL...

"Higher SPF people"....

It's actually TRUE. http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/redhead-anesthesia.htm

Redheads might actually need to take more smack to get the same high, if it's already known that it takes 20% more aneshtesia to get them under for surgery.

I never get fully numb at the dentist, I just have to gut it out... Usually the lidocaine (they don't really use novacaine much anymore...) works well enough that it doesn't hurt... much. But it never dulls the sensations of hot/cold or the "funny bone" electric feelings the drill causes.

I also woke up during the two surgical procedures I've had during my life, first was my appendectomy when I was 19 back in '92, tried to say something into my intubation hose. Fortunately I was on my way back down already as my vitals showed I was waking up and they were turning up the gas and the ketamine or whatever it was in my IV, I was only told about it later in recovery. Now it was clear they were really worried I'd felt the whole procedure and they were feeling me out about it.

 Then it happened again back in '10 when I was getting a heart Electrophysiology catheterization. I thought I was being helpful when I lifted my arm to my chest, pointed and said "Yeah, I can feel it poking around right here... seems like you're close... The port in my thigh only hurts a little.."  and the radiologist snatched my hand out of the fluoroscope, and the cardiologist barked at the nurse to push more Versed.

I hadn't realized that 20 minutes had already passed and was continuing the conversation with the doctors and nurses when I'd been put under in the first place. I remember being kind of surprised they got the catheter up into my chest so fast...   

You mean you're not supposed to feel that!?!?!

Ohhhh.... No wonder other people think I'm a wimp... Intresting.

[41magsnub]

LOL...


 Then it happened again back in '10 when I was getting a heart Electrophysiology catheterization. I thought I was being helpful when I lifted my arm to my chest, pointed and said "Yeah, I can feel it poking around right here... seems like you're close... The port in my thigh only hurts a little.."  and the radiologist snatched my hand out of the fluoroscope, and the cardiologist barked at the nurse to push more Versed.

I hadn't realized that 20 minutes had already passed and was continuing the conversation with the doctors and nurses when I'd been put under in the first place. I remember being kind of surprised they got the catheter up into my chest so fast...  

When I had mine done I was talking to them the entire time, but have zero memory of the event because of how versed works.  I remember being wheeled into the OR and walking up in the recovery room.  The cardiologist was laughing because he was explaining the (all good) results to me for the second time.

The only time I've had dental work done I didn't get enough drugs, but didn't know that I was supposed to be completely numb instead of just kind of numb.  I found out the difference once they started drilling!    While he was actively drilling I was afraid to move or react so I just took it.  The nurse noticed how white knuckled I was and asked the dentist to stop so they could ask how I was doing.  Two more shots later I was fine.

[MillCreek]

http://www.usatoday.com/longform/news/nation/2014/07/02/heroin-business-dealers-dea/11706937/

So the drug dealers of New Mexico apparently hired a MBA or two or went to a seminar.