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replica precussion revolvers
« on: October 01, 2014, 03:54:43 PM »
Last Saturday's gun show, I got tempted by, but did not "pull the trigger on", a steel cap and ball .44 revolver.   Had a topstrap, so I assume it was a Remington reproduction.   This guy had them at $200 each, which made me leery of it.   Figured I didn't know enough about them to make a wise choice.  I had a chance to shoot one a few years ago, and it was a hoot.

What should I look at, what should I avoid?
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 04:11:52 PM »
I think the no-brainer is a Ruger Old Army if you want to eliminate all the headaches.  I would avoid brass framed revos.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 04:17:48 PM »
I think Cabelas sells new reproductions $250-300.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 04:18:54 PM »
I would say that there is nothing wrong with a brass frame as long as you're aware of the limitations and want to maybe experiment with the genre without spending a lot. As long as you load within safe limits, you're fine. That said, a couple of years after I got a brass Navy revolver and decided that I liked it, I bought the steel frame version. The limited loads that you can shoot in a brass revolver make for a pleasant day at the range though. :)
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 04:34:41 PM »
I think Cabelas sells new reproductions $250-300.

OK, so $200 is in the range of a reasonable price for a used one.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 04:51:01 PM »
IF I were to get a "new" percussion revolver, I'd be sure to get one of those for which there are aftermarket cylinders available to convert it to a cartridge firearm.  ;)
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 04:58:44 PM »
Yet another little toy project I spent money on yet still collecting dust.  I am off Friday so maybe I can play with my black powder revolver.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 05:24:35 PM »
IF I were to get a "new" percussion revolver, I'd be sure to get one of those for which there are aftermarket cylinders available to convert it to a cartridge firearm.  ;)

That covers both the Remington clones and the Colt clones, but both of the major makers of conversion cylinders caution against using them in a brass-framed revolver. Personally, I think it would be safe enough if you didn't shoot the gun a lot, and if you stick to very light handloads. If it's in .45 Colt, for example, I would source some .45 Schofield brass and then download that.

A couple of years ago when visiting a friend in another state I had a chance to play with a Remington reproduction (steel frame) fitted with a conversion cylinder. It was a hoot and half.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 05:28:44 PM »
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 07:37:06 PM »
I think the no-brainer is a Ruger Old Army if you want to eliminate all the headaches.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Old_Army

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The revolver was tested by loading each chamber to capacity with Bullseye smokeless powder and a lead ball.

None of this "Trail Boss" fluffy stuff.  Bullseye.  Oh-key then.   That is interesting.  
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 07:58:15 PM »
The Old Army is hell for strong but it costs about twice as much as the Remington and Colt clones made by Uberti and Pietta.  I've got one and I prefer it over my Pietta Remington clone, but like I said, that price ...
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 09:29:51 PM »
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"The revolver was tested by loading each chamber to capacity with Bullseye smokeless powder and a lead ball."

Wow.  What revolver was that?  What is that, about 50-60 grains per chamber, I would guess?

To me, that looks like detonatin' country at that charge density of Bullseye.

A triple charge of BullsEye (call it about ~15 grains) will take a 1911 apart.

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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 09:45:42 PM »
I like my Walker repro. :)
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2014, 12:23:57 AM »
wouldn't want a conversion conversion cylinder too*, but shoulder stock. [ar15]


*batfe etc.

oh and keep your digits behind the gap. [tinfoil]

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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2014, 01:00:25 PM »
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"The revolver was tested by loading each chamber to capacity with Bullseye smokeless powder and a lead ball."


I'm wondering if the Bullseye thing might not be apocryphal.  Wikipedia and all, you know.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2014, 04:39:05 PM »
I thought the smokeless loads were for naa's [tinfoil]

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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2014, 09:01:01 PM »
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"The revolver was tested by loading each chamber to capacity with Bullseye smokeless powder and a lead ball."

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I'm wondering if the Bullseye thing might not be apocryphal.  Wikipedia and all, you know.

That's why I said "Wow," just from general experience.  I hope they fired those nitroglycerine loads in a BP revolver (even a stainless one) with a long string and a checkbook handy.

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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2014, 09:09:47 PM »
That's why I said "Wow," just from general experience.

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Yup.   When a +P load of .38 is just a rat's handful of Bullseye at the bottom of the case.

Anyway, Midway's got cap and ball revovlers, not too expensive.
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Re: replica precussion revolvers
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2014, 09:19:10 PM »
The Old Army is hell for strong but it costs about twice as much as the Remington and Colt clones made by Uberti and Pietta.  I've got one and I prefer it over my Pietta Remington clone, but like I said, that price ...

The Ruger Old Army is also discontinued.
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