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For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« on: November 02, 2014, 11:12:24 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/03/health/bracing-for-the-falls-of-an-aging-nation.html

This is an excellent article for some of the things we should be watching out for.  Back when I was doing risk management for the hospice and home health agencies, fall prevention was a really big thing.

My parents are still living indepedently in their late 80's, but we are currently looking at placing my wife's mother since she can no longer safely live independently.  Suffice it to say that she is resisting the process.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2014, 11:19:43 AM »
Thanks for that Millcreek. I'm dealing with this right now.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2014, 11:36:23 AM »
Apparently one of the more frequently occurring risks, at least based on the medical alert device commercials on TV and the only health-related question my O2 therapy guy asks me at the monthly check of the concentrator.

Having needed to stay briefly in an assised living/rehab facility because of a very few things I was not allowed to do on my own while recovering from surgery to implant the defibrelator - pulling up compression stockings being the biggest bugaboo, but carrying my own meal tray was high up on the list, I can attest that the loss of independent mobility those places impose on "residents" is frustrating, annoying, and maddening.  (Of course, being some 30+ years younger than the average resident age did not help.)  That and having to both sign out/sign in just to go sit in the sun away from the smell of disinfectant (and yes, old people) was irritating, but being checked on every 15 minutes to see if I had fallen over or wandered away (or having sex with that nice Mrs. Willis three doors down on the other side of the hall) was the breaking point.  (OK, Mrs. Willis was 93, slightly senile, and pretty much tried to rape anything remotely resembling the male species so making sure I was not in her clutches was all in all acceptable.)

My internal conversations say that I will go into a care facility when I am no longer able to do activities of daily living on my own, but I'm pretty sure I will be kicking and screaming in attempts to do on my own those few I retain the ability to do.

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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2014, 12:07:22 PM »
Thanks for that Millcreek. I'm preparing to dealing with this right now.

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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2014, 10:06:51 AM »

My internal conversations say that I will go into a care facility when I am no longer able to do activities of daily living on my own, but I'm pretty sure I will be kicking and screaming in attempts to do on my own those few I retain the ability to do.


If I'm at that point put a bullet in my head. 

Actually waiting for this shoe to drop with my grandparents, mom's parents.  They are both in there 90's and at this point in time can take care of themselves and grandma can still drive.  Going to be one of those situations I believe that no matter which one goes first the other one will be gone within 6 months.

As for my mom she is in relative good health and I can see her being around for another 20-30 years herself.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2014, 10:25:46 AM »
Seeing this with my grandparents.  Grandma is sharp as a tack, but she is having increasing difficulty moving around after double hip and knee replacements.  Gramps is doing great physically, but mentally he is slipping.  His judgement and short term memory are really bad.  For example; I  visited them last Sunday and he asked me 7 times over the course of 30 minutes if my dog had gotten a treat or not.

The big thing coming up with them is their house.  It is a 3 story and Grandma doesn't need to do the stairs anymore.  However, there are stairs to get into the house, the laundry is in the basement, the kitchen is on the ground floor, and the bedrooms are all upstairs.  It is past time for them to move into a single level condo but Gramps has dug in his heels.

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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2014, 10:31:45 AM »
^^^This is a major reason why we are planning on downsizing to a rambler in the next year or two.  Something that we can age in place in.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2014, 10:49:08 AM »
For example; I  visited them last Sunday and he asked me 7 times over the course of 30 minutes if my dog had gotten a treat or not.

My mom does this all day long now. I always have to take a step back and remind myself why it's happening, because by now it has become super annoying. All you can really do is sigh, put a smile on your face, and answer them, with the thought in the back of your head of, "There but for the grace of God go I". My dad is still sharp as a tack, so I'm really hoping that genetically I follow him as I age.

My folks built their house European style, so that it can basically be split into large upstairs and downstairs "apartments" (common with multi-generational families in Germany), each with kitchens, bedrooms, living room, etc. We're actually getting ready to do that now as I have to move up there for a while at least to help them out. My mom can actually make it up and down the stairs easier than my dad because my dad has a bad leg, but my mom is out of it so much that she's the one we worry about losing her balance and falling.

I really would have liked them to sell their place and follow me out of state, where I could have put up a small modular home next to whatever I get so that they're close, but we each still have some privacy and independence. But a big move for my mom is just out of the question. My dad said that after my mom passes he would be up for something like that, but he wouldn't go to some of the states I like, such as Idaho, because of the Winters. He loves Oregon and said he'd move there in a heartbeat, so I might have to compromise on where I head. I actually love Oregon and the physical climate, but am just wary as to where the political climate is going.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2014, 10:57:05 AM »
Were my wife and I to sell our current home and build new, you can bet your bippie we would build to ADA standards and with aging parents in mind.

We could manage to care for one, maybe two, parents in current accommodations.  Given that we give up any extra room for immediate family.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2014, 01:14:57 PM »
Grandparents live in a single level condo where there is only a small step up to get into the building.  Only other issue is that there storage is in the basement and they have a detached garage that grandma has to traverse a parking lot/driveway to get to when they need to get out.  Thankfully when the weather is bad mom will go over and get them so they don't have to get out and drive.
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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2014, 05:17:09 PM »
Dad died back in 1991, but Mom is hale and hearty at 98.  She is in better health, overall, than me or my sibs.  Go figure.

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Re: For those of us with aging parents and are aging ourselves
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2014, 08:54:38 PM »
Given that we give up any extra room for immediate family.

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