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Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« on: November 07, 2014, 12:41:24 PM »
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 12:52:15 PM »
POLICE BRUTALITY! POLICE BRUTALITY!
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 01:41:08 PM »
He was just turning his life around


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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 04:03:10 PM »
That just sucks for the nurses. No security, but they have the cams to do a post event review of.  ;/ I wonder how many will quit nursing because of this.

I wonder if it was a locked psych unit, the first staff member to the door had to put her badge to the door unlock and wait a few seconds for it to unlock. Afterwards, toward the end the of the inside view another staff member came back to hold the door open (maybe so it wouldn't lock?).

I have worked in several ERs, mainly inner city where it was a given that at least half of the male staff, Drs and nurses, and a few females were armed every shift. Was it against the rules, you betcha, but when the patients, their families and rivals all show up most likely armed I wasn't going to bring a scalpel to a gun fight.

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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 04:09:15 PM »
^^^Not that I would know, of course ( ;/), but a bellyband conceals well under a pair of loose-fitting scrubs.
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 04:19:15 PM »
That's the stuff that can give risk managers cold sweats at night, having one of your employees on duty shoot a patient or a visitor. I probably would not have seen that side of it because I would have been fired PDQ.   =D   >:D


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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 05:05:24 PM »
So ... going to eliminate the bed frames and just put the mattresses on the floor  ???   =|
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 05:24:36 PM »
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That's the stuff that can give risk managers cold sweats at night, having one of your employees on duty shoot a patient or a visitor. I probably would not have seen that side of it because I would have been fired PDQ. 

The hospital in Pennsylvania whose psychiatrist shot and killed a violent patient wasn't fired, even though his having a gun was contrary to hospital policy. In fact, in the aftermath of the incident the hospital is "reviewing" the policy.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 06:06:37 PM »
Tallpine, that won't work. I've had patients that I couldn't leave the sheets in the room for fear of them harming themselves... And I've taken the whole bed out on others. We put guards outside the room of any of our psych patients who are combative, likely to run, or give us the heebie jeebies (and we can get away with it).

My heart goes out to those nurses. They had a craptastic night.... It sucks getting hurt on the job. Sucks worse being attacked by a crazy person. Icing on the cake was whoever thought it'd be a good idea to take the downed crazy person BACK to the hospital he attacked.
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 06:49:43 PM »
Crazy people don't need a pipe to be real dangerous. Had my fill of that nonsense and if it happens anymore no more mr nice guy. I am putting em out as fast and hard as I can.  Hard because they are hard to put out. Make you wanna drive a stake through their heart


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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2014, 07:04:49 PM »
Didn't anybody think to tackle him, when he ran out of ammo?
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2014, 08:33:02 PM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on November 07, 2014, 05:24:36 PM
The hospital in Pennsylvania whose psychiatrist shot and killed a violent patient wasn't fired, even though his having a gun was contrary to hospital policy. In fact, in the aftermath of the incident the hospital is "reviewing" the policy.

I think that was an wrinkle in the time-space continuum. The psychiatrist shot a person that had already killed one person and was going for him. Plus he is a psychiatrist, have you tried to hire one of those lately? They are scarce as hen's teeth. A nurse is a dime a dozen to administration, they would fire one in a New York second for popping a patient or other person in the hospital, whether the person needed it or not.  =|

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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2014, 09:07:49 PM »
[hospital administration]Workplace violence is bad, mmkay?[/hospital administration]
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2014, 10:38:21 PM »
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Police found him three blocks away and tried to Taser him after he refused to drop the metal police.
Think it was a cop statue or Slayer with a badge?
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Re: Paranoid patient with metal pipe runs amok in the hospital
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2014, 10:10:37 AM »
Usually had a "little something" in my nearby messenger bag, especially when I worked out front; kinda augmented unarmed security then.

Funniest event was when we had a murder "suspect" in ER after his capture. I was really busy with incoming patients when guy comes to window and pulls jacket back revealing a Glock, no badge. But  one look & I let him in. Had cop written all over him.

After things slowed down & security returned to station we laughed: "What's this? You show me yours & I'll show you mine?" or "This is WV, Butthead, everybody's got a gun!"

Turns out he was Deputy US Marshall; I wasn't impressed.
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