California concealed carry upheld by the Federal Ninth District Court.

[MillCreek]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/12/new-court-decision-likely-ends-california-restrictions-on-conceal-carry-permits/

Pop the champagne corks in California: concealed carry permits coming.

[Ben]

I've just been catching up on all the implications over at CalGuns. So far everything looks like good news. I might just go for mine during my temporary move to the folks place. It'll be interesting to see what the waiting period for interviews turns out to be. There's a ton of "CCW classes" signs that have popped up around the folk's area.

Kamala Harris must be stomping her feet and throwing breakable stuff in her office today. Now if only we can get rid of our stupid "handgun roster" (lawsuits in progress) so people can actually buy new handguns to CCW, things will be good.

[Perd Hapley]

Now if only we can get rid of our stupid "handgun roster"...

But, but that would be unsafe. California would turn into one of those really unsafe states. Like Ohio. Or (shudder) Iowa. (Or pretty much all of the other ones.)

[DustinD]

SUMMARY
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Civil Rights
The panel denied motions to intervene, which were filed after the panel’s opinion and judgment holding that a responsible, law-abiding citizen has a right under the Second Amendment to carry a firearm in public for self-defense.

Wow, awesome to read that from the 9th. I wonder if this will push the supremes to intervene if anyone gets a case to them regarding carrying.

[Balog]

Heh, suck it Commiefornia.

[RoadKingLarry]

It'll take a decade before it all shakes out with many more court cases litigated.
Look at what went on in DC  and it is still a virtual impossibility to get a CCW permit there.

And, how many permits have been issued in Illinois yet?

Sucks but that's the way I see it. Some parts of the USA are terminal and need to be excised like a gangrenous limb.

[wmenorr67]

Maybe the water is beginning to clear up in some parts of the country if the 9th Circuit is saying this.  This country just might be able to be saved after all.

[cordex]

Maybe the water is beginning to clear up in some parts of the country if the 9th Circuit is saying this.  This country just might be able to be saved after all.

There have been a lot of wins on the gun issue, but freedom gets regularly hit in the nuts more often than a dad on Americas Funniest Home Videos in other respects.

[Perd Hapley]

And, how many permits have been issued in Illinois yet?

Tens of thousands, apparently. Some counties are obstructing, obviously, but I thought permits had become fairly routine, for the most part.

As of July 29 the state had 83,183 applications for concealed carry and had issued 68,549 licenses. By the end of the year, Mr. Pearson estimates, 100,000 Illinois citizens will be packing.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/#ixzz3Ix0EIqZV

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[lee n. field]

It'll take a decade before it all shakes out with many more court cases litigated.
Look at what went on in DC  and it is still a virtual impossibility to get a CCW permit there.

And, how many permits have been issued in Illinois yet?

seventy some odd thousand.

[Ben]

Look at what went on in DC  and it is still a virtual impossibility to get a CCW permit there.

I happened to catch a radio snippet yesterday of that one female reporter (from the Washington Examiner I think?) who has been recording her efforts to get a DC permit. She played a recording of her latest encounter, where she said she'd been a home invasion victim and the interviewing LEO told her that wasn't sufficient reason. She then said (I'm paraphrasing from memory),"So you're saying my 2nd Amendment rights don't apply?" LEO: "The 2nd Amendment - that... that was because the British were coming." And that's from someone who's supposed to uphold the law of the land.

[Ben]

It'll take a decade before it all shakes out with many more court cases litigated.

It may not shake out immediately. but I don't think it will be quite that long. There are a couple of similar lawsuits in other states (according to the NRA) that could kibosh Peruta if those judges go the other way. However the CA county that was at the heart of this lawsuit already pretty much caved. There are going to be several troublesome counties, mostly on the North coast, where they do things like requiring psychological evaluations, whose Sheriffs will need a clue bat. However we also already have several counties that were already practically shall issue. The Sheriff of the county I'm moving to publicly states that every law-abiding citizen should be armed. If he could circumvent all the state requirements, he would. He has the opposite viewpoint of the Sheriff of the county I'm moving from.


One of the beauties of this ruling is that it appears it won the 9th over because of a recent restriction on unloaded open carry. The antis took one step too many and created a situation where no one could be armed in any way, making this ruling an easier decision. Had they left unloaded open carry alone, we probably wouldn't have seen this victory.

[Ben]

Heh, suck it Commiefornia.

Hey, you wanna meet at a coffee shop up there so I can sell you a gun for cheap? Oh wait...

[Scout26]

And, how many permits have been issued in Illinois yet?

69,000 between April and July.  It's right at 100k now.

[Balog]

Hey, you wanna meet at a coffee shop up there so I can sell you a gun for cheap? Oh wait...

Before Dec 4? Yes. After Dec 4? yes, but stop talking about it in public. 

That being said, I acknowledge that we suck too. 

[Ben]

That being said, I acknowledge that we suck too. 

Not as bad as us, but from some of the language I've seen in your latest, your antigunners may have bitten off more than they can chew as well. Let's hope our side gets some good lawyers involved.

[Balog]

Not as bad as us, but from some of the language I've seen in your latest, your antigunners may have bitten off more than they can chew as well. Let's hope our side gets some good lawyers involved.

The way 594 is written is so incredibly badly done it's hard to imagine it will withstand legal challenge.

[230RN]

Chris Baker, over on the Hawaiian site, also had his own case pending on this matter.  Here's his take on it:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=14103.0

Just sayin'.

[Ben]

Here's the video of that DC reporter trying to get her permit:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3887625779001/impossible-to-get-legal-gun-carry-permit-in-dc/#sp=show-clips