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Here is a thing:
« on: November 13, 2014, 06:40:40 PM »
It stamps your dollars, so that everyone knows they were spent by a gun person.

http://www.sackmann.com/category.aspx?categoryID=129


But how do I pay for it in gun-stamped dollars?  ???
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 07:16:21 PM »
I can't find the words to sufficently describe how stupid that is. Like right up there with CCW badges, at least.
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 07:50:48 PM »
I can't find the words to sufficently describe how stupid that is. Like right up there with CCW badges, at least.

That was my first thought, as well.
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 09:14:03 PM »
Isn't defacing us currency technically illegal?
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 10:01:04 PM »
Isn't defacing us currency technically illegal?

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Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both

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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 10:27:58 PM »
I can't find the words to sufficently describe how stupid that is. Like right up there with CCW badges, at least.

[scratches head] Please explain that comparison.

I think the purpose is to demonstrate how much money is spent by gun-owners. Sort of a buy-cott. I don't know that I'll get one, but I don't see any problem with the idea.
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 10:51:31 PM »

No one gives a *expletive deleted*it, that's why. 99% of retailers only concern about the bills are making sure it's not counterfeit.

You mention buy-cotts...which also go unnoticed most of the time.




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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2014, 10:52:22 PM »
I don't know.  I's like to see the look on Shannon Watts' face when she get handed a few as change at Kroger.....

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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2014, 10:59:33 PM »
No one gives a *expletive deleted* it, that's why. 99% of retailers only concern about the bills are making sure it's not counterfeit.

You mention buy-cotts...which also go unnoticed most of the time.


Which doesn't put this stamp thing on the same level as a CCW badge, or identify anything actually wrong with the idea. Other than, it may not work.
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2014, 11:10:06 PM »

Which doesn't put this stamp thing on the same level as a CCW badge, or identify anything actually wrong with the idea. Other than, it may not work.

Because it's a giant load of herp-derp "I own gunz! I paid $16 for a stamp so I could stamp my money to SEND A MESSAGE!

Much like the people who hand out religious tracts, or the fake money with religious messages stamped on it, it's so cheesy it's ridiculous.





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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2014, 12:22:38 AM »
Because it's a giant load of herp-derp "I own gunz! I paid $16 for a stamp so I could stamp my money to SEND A MESSAGE!

Much like the people who hand out religious tracts, or the fake money with religious messages stamped on it, it's so cheesy it's ridiculous.


What are you on?  ??? I really don't understand why this strikes such a chord with you. If you think "the gun stamp movement" wouldn't be the most successful campaign, then fine. But why the invective?

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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2014, 09:59:59 AM »
I'm sure there's some sort of penalty that will be assessed against me, but I have to side with Fistful on this.

It may not be the most effective campaign ever, and it may be a time suck to sit and stamp your dollars (Oh, such a burden.  I have so much money to stamp!), but small nudges made over and over make things more familiar and less intimidating.
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2014, 10:41:16 AM »
[scratches head] Please explain that comparison.

I think the purpose is to demonstrate how much money is spent by gun-owners. Sort of a buy-cott. I don't know that I'll get one, but I don't see any problem with the idea.

Who is going to look at it? All the cashier cares about is the dollar value of the bill, and whether or not it passes the magic pen test for counterfeit money. Even IF a cashier happened to notice the stamp, they're not going to tabulate how many they saw. They're not going to report to the supervisor at the end of their shift, "Hey, boss, 0.000037 percent of my sales today were paid for with 'I support guns' bills."

And managers or owners don't routinely check each cash drawer when it's turned in. There's probably a back office, low level apprentice bookkeeper who does that. Again, does that person care if a bill has a pro-gun stamp on it? Heck, no. The bean counters in the back room probably just pick up a stack of bills and run through them, flipping up the corners to see the denomination and make a count. That's all.

Besides, virtually nobody (other than me) uses money today. Most transactions are paid for with debit cards, and most of the rest are paid for with credit cards. Very few of us use real money. How do you gun stamp a card swipe?
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2014, 12:44:09 PM »
Who is going to look at it? All the cashier cares about is the dollar value of the bill, and whether or not it passes the magic pen test for counterfeit money. Even IF a cashier happened to notice the stamp, they're not going to tabulate how many they saw. They're not going to report to the supervisor at the end of their shift, "Hey, boss, 0.000037 percent of my sales today were paid for with 'I support guns' bills."

And managers or owners don't routinely check each cash drawer when it's turned in. There's probably a back office, low level apprentice bookkeeper who does that. Again, does that person care if a bill has a pro-gun stamp on it? Heck, no. The bean counters in the back room probably just pick up a stack of bills and run through them, flipping up the corners to see the denomination and make a count. That's all.

Besides, virtually nobody (other than me) uses money today. Most transactions are paid for with debit cards, and most of the rest are paid for with credit cards. Very few of us use real money. How do you gun stamp a card swipe?

You're saying the idea is ineffective. I wouldn't argue with that. I'm just trying to figure out why someone compared it to a CCW badge. I thought the problem with a CCW badge is that it's impersonating a police officer (or close to it), and that it conveys a Volunteer Sheriff's Deputy Dwight K. Schrute mindset. Those sound like much more serious problems than just the feckless waste of time this may or may not be.
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Re: Here is a thing:
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2014, 03:51:31 PM »
You're saying the idea is ineffective. I wouldn't argue with that. I'm just trying to figure out why someone compared it to a CCW badge. I thought the problem with a CCW badge is that it's impersonating a police officer (or close to it), and that it conveys a Volunteer Sheriff's Deputy Dwight K. Schrute mindset. Those sound like much more serious problems than just the feckless waste of time this may or may not be.

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