Beyond meat is the future?

[MillCreek]

http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2014-11-17/when-fake-super-meat-is-better-than-the-real-thing

I saw this video this morning on Bloomberg.  I have not seen or looked for this at the local stores; perhaps I will to check it out.

[Kingcreek]

No, No, Hell No.
From the venison I take from the field to the fork, or the grass fed lamb, or the side of farm raised beef waiting for me at the locker (dry aged 3 weeks). Meat is meat and real meat is better. If "processed" is anything other than cut, (maybe smoke cure) wrap, freeze then forget it.

[vaskidmark]

Show me a chop or a boneless breast and I might play your game.  But the real test is when they can come up with jerky.

"Super Meat"?  And selling it as "greener".  Did they not read all the comments that followed the release of http://www.soylent.me ?

And I'll just bet the announcement came out on a Tuesday. 

stay safe.

[cordex]

If it is cheap enough, I could see replacing part of my non-meat diet with pseudomeat, but I can't see it ever replacing real meat entirely for me.

[KD5NRH]

Show me a chop or a boneless breast and I might play your game.  But the real test is when they can come up with jerky.

For me, the real test would be making one with a long shelf life instead of the current "keep frozen" packs.  If they can make a convincing nutrient-packed "supermeat" that will keep (preferably in cooked form) for at least a year in a bug out bag, I'll buy a few days worth for that, and toss it into my menu from time to time to make sure I'm acclimated to it.  (Don't want to wait until drinking water is scarce to find out that your stored food and/or bug out food gives you diarrhea.)

He mentioned high protein, high calcium, etc. for the burger patty.  Assuming that can be tailored, it could make storable foods pretty interesting as you'd be able to have high-endurance bug out, low-residue hunker quietly, and fast-energy work your butt off menus that are indistinguishable in terms of taste, and that could make it worth having a few days' worth of them in the freezer for bug in.  For that matter, if it tastes good enough, you could throw it into a few meals a week to tailor to your varying activity types and levels in everyday life.  Sort of like a multivitamin in real food form.

ETA: looks like the 12oz bag of "beef" crumble is supposed to be 6 servings, and 300mg of sodium per serving.  Chicken is 3 servings per 9oz bag, and 350mg sodium per serving.  2-3oz servings aren't a meat substitute, it's a seasoning that happens to look like meat.  They've just developed a companion to imitation bacon bits there.  Give me a 12 ounce serving with no more than ~150mg sodium, and I'll call it food.

[MechAg94]

I can see the shelf life angle, however, it won't be a good alternative until you can substitute it for real meat and no one knows (in a meat food, not some stew or casarole).

[fifth_column]

Molded protein was good enough for the crew of Serenity . . . .

[KD5NRH]

I can see the shelf life angle, however, it won't be a good alternative until you can substitute it for real meat and no one knows (in a meat food, not some stew or casarole).

Even as stew meat, making a shelf-stable supermeat substitute would overcome meat's biggest drawback.  Ideally, though, it would be nice to be able to toss a few very realistic retort packed sirloins or chicken fried steaks in the bug out bag or have a case of pork chops in the trunk.

[Hawkmoon]

Behold: The original supermeat

[MechAg94]

Even as stew meat, making a shelf-stable supermeat substitute would overcome meat's biggest drawback.  Ideally, though, it would be nice to be able to toss a few very realistic retort packed sirloins or chicken fried steaks in the bug out bag or have a case of pork chops in the trunk.

Agreed,but that is a specific case. I don't see a fake steak on the grill in my future.  I also wonder if these people think this stuff tastes like meat because they never eat it.

[RoadKingLarry]

When it looks and tastes like this I might try it.

[charby]

When it looks and tastes like this I might try it.

Give them enough time and it probably will.

[MechAg94]

Give them enough time and it probably will.

I doubt it.  There are the same people who claim the veggie burgers taste like meat. 

[charby]

I doubt it.  There are the same people who claim the veggie burgers taste like meat. 

Did you even watch the video, their process is way different than the veggie burgers of today.

They are building a meat like product out of the same components that meat is. I find it interesting as all get out.

[MechAg94]

Videos often don't work at work.  Never looked at home.  I guess I have heard veggetarians claim stuff like that too often. 

If it is actually synthetic meat rather than some veggie substitute, that becomes more interesting, especially as mentioned above for long shelf life foods.

[KD5NRH]

I doubt it.  There are the same people who claim the veggie burgers taste like meat.

And people who claim diet sodas taste just like the real thing.

And people who claim that Dr [Whatever] tastes just like Dr Pepper.

[Hawkmoon]

Did you even watch the video, their process is way different than the veggie burgers of today.

They are building a meat like product out of the same components that meat is. I find it interesting as all get out.

It's all in the spin. Remember, when the Apollo mission brought back the first moon rocks, the scientists sagely proclaimed that the rocks contained "all the elements of life." Dunno what that was supposed to mean, because I don't think they were trying to say that moon rocks are "alive," but it made for a memorable sound bite.

Just like when there all the uproar regarding aspartame several years ago. I still (occasionally) watched television in those days, and I remember very clearly a commercial for Nutrasweet that said, "There is nothing in Nutrasweet that doesn't come from nature. My reaction at the time was, "There is also nothing in an atomic bomb that doesn't come from nature."

Meat-like =/= meat.

[KD5NRH]

Just like when there all the uproar regarding aspartame several years ago. I still (occasionally) watched television in those days, and I remember very clearly a commercial for Nutrasweet that said, "There is nothing in Nutrasweet that doesn't come from nature. My reaction at the time was, "There is also nothing in an atomic bomb that doesn't come from nature."

Yeah, the "it's all natural so it's good for you" types don't like it when I point out that strychnine is all natural too.

[charby]

It's all in the spin. Remember, when the Apollo mission brought back the first moon rocks, the scientists sagely proclaimed that the rocks contained "all the elements of life." Dunno what that was supposed to mean, because I don't think they were trying to say that moon rocks are "alive," but it made for a memorable sound bite.

Just like when there all the uproar regarding aspartame several years ago. I still (occasionally) watched television in those days, and I remember very clearly a commercial for Nutrasweet that said, "There is nothing in Nutrasweet that doesn't come from nature. My reaction at the time was, "There is also nothing in an atomic bomb that doesn't come from nature."

Meat-like =/= meat.

Well let's revisit this when the 3d chemical printer is available at Mao-Mart.