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The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« on: April 20, 2015, 10:18:54 PM »
I am literally praying that we don't end up like Australia.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/tanya-cohen/2015/04/its-time-to-put-an-end-to-anti-choice-speech/

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"I speak for all Australians when I say that, in Australia, it is just common sense that freedom of speech doesn’t give anyone the right to offend, insult, humiliate, intimidate, vilify, incite hatred or violence, be impolite or uncivil, disrespect, oppose human rights, spread lies or misinformation, argue against the common good, or promote ideas which have no place in society."

The entire thing goes on in that vein. It's enough to keep man up late cleaning his rifles.
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2015, 10:47:35 PM »
I am literally praying that we don't end up like Australia.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/tanya-cohen/2015/04/its-time-to-put-an-end-to-anti-choice-speech/

The entire thing goes on in that vein. It's enough to keep man up late cleaning his rifles.

And maybe the road to Washington.  Or at least at regular intervals hanging from handy trees or cross-bars.  "I am Spartacus Pajama Boy!"

Such trampling of the COTUS has "no place in society."
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2015, 11:02:35 PM »
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The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors
Well, that's certainly true in Rachel Corrie's case.

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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2015, 11:36:44 PM »
Felt the need to respond to that one:

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Go crawl back under the slimy, disgusting marxist rock that you crawled out from. If you can't stand free speech, move to North Korea or Iran, no one in the western world will miss you except fellow sabateurs. Seriously, eff you and all of your idiotic kind. /quote]
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 07:54:32 AM »
Just another person who can't wrap their mind around the idea that free speech has to include speech he disagrees with or it isn't free.

Did you notice how many times he uses the terms "there is no question" and "everybody agrees"?  You would think he would realize that if everybody thought the same that the question of free speech wouldn't come up.
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 08:47:34 AM »

It's important to remember that not many countries have the equivalent of the First Amendment. Even our's is not absolute, but one of the most legally protected of the amendments.

It's common sense to have a strong freedom of speech. While it limits the amount of oppressing you can do to others, it limits others oppressing you when they get into power.
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 09:08:17 AM »
It's important to remember that not many countries have the equivalent of the First Amendment. Even our's is not absolute, but one of the most legally protected of the amendments.

It's common sense to have a strong freedom of speech. While it limits the amount of oppressing you can do to others, it limits others oppressing you when they get into power.


Line one contradicts line two.

Clearly, it's not common.
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 09:35:32 AM »
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Not only do people have freedom of speech, but people also have freedom from certain kinds of speech(1) (for example, racism). Freedom of speech is not absolute, and nobody believes that it is. We all learned in school that freedom of speech does not protect hate speech(2), and this is not something that’s even up for debate. Even the most hardcore and dedicated ultra-libertarians and free speech fundamentalists still universally agree that things like racial vilification, incitement to hatred, and Holocaust denial should be subject to legal sanctions(3). Nobody believes that racial vilification should be legal, or that it should be legal to deny the Holocaust. Freedom of speech does have limits, and freedom of speech does not – under any circumstances – permit expressions of hatred.(4)

(1) - Freedom from anything involves getting up and walking away/changing the channel.  But nooo, that requires the offended to actually do something.

(2) - Maybe in Australia they did, but here in America Illinois Nazis are still free to say what they want.

(3) - If those things should be subject to legal sanctions then so should anti-logical notions.  Or at least there should be a law allowing for the application of a brain-housing group alignment tool.

(4) - Then how can I express the feelings I have towards people who think like that?

When you grow up a subject and are indoctrinated with the idea that The State knows what is best for you you wind up with stuff like this.  America "grew up" with a frontier; those who did not like the way things were could pick up and go beyond it and settle where they could make their own rules.  Australia's frontier is just the line marking beyond which stuff won't grow and people can't live.

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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 09:37:49 AM »
I hate Illinois Nazis!
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 10:24:43 AM »
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The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.

An interesting mental picture, that I see that others here share.
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 12:25:32 PM »
. . . (4) - Then how can I express the feelings I have towards people who think like that? . . .
Make it clear that they have no right to "offend, insult, humiliate, intimidate, vilify, incite hatred or violence, be impolite or uncivil, disrespect, oppose human rights, spread lies or misinformation, argue against the common good, or promote ideas which have no place in society" with what they're saying.
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Re: The road to hell is paved with social justice warriors.
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2015, 12:28:39 PM »
It's important to remember that not many countries have the equivalent of the First Amendment. Even our's is not absolute, but one of the most legally protected of the amendments.

It's common sense to have a strong freedom of speech. While it limits the amount of oppressing you can do to others, it limits others oppressing you when they get into power.


British people always seem to take it personally when you point out that their beloved fed.gov throws people in jail for saying mean things on twitter.
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