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Ned Hamford

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Building An Elevated Garden
« on: June 21, 2015, 01:38:20 PM »
If I have the free time this year, I may build it for prime use next year.  I'd like to do some lite gardening without any of that bending over and with easy avoidance of weeds and most animals. So.. Elevated Garden. 


http://www.addicted2decorating.com/how-to-build-an-elevated-garden.html

At present, I'm looking at a type like this; Tuesday I'll have some free time out and about and figure to price the materials and play around with some material alternatives and plan alterations.  Near some relatives in Vermont there is also a Dairy Co-Op I plan to price things at; primarily some durable wheels that could be attached for maximum convenience. 

Planned placement is under a large tree next to a pond; that is next to the driveway.  Nothing planned for the growing that is particularly intensive or non-durable; beans, chives, lettuce types.  Just the general thought of wouldn't it be nice and hey, I could make that happen.  The wife also gets an extreme discount on Burpee seeds. 

So... Any Wisdom or suggestions before I get the project planned out in earnest?
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 02:02:21 PM »
We moved all of our garden into some of those mineral tubs that we got for free from a local rancher  =)

If you build with wood, use treated lumber or it won't last long.

Otherwise, some railroad ties stacked to the height you want work well.  No need for legs, just mostly fill them with dirt/gravel and only fertilize the top 12" or so.
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 03:11:24 PM »
You need to put a path down the middle for that two level effect.  .....I guess that is for shrubberies.  
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 08:37:36 PM »
While my garden is all raised beds none are elevated. I like the idea of a keyhole garden.
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 10:59:07 PM »
Probably work great for low crops- gonna be hard to pick pole beans off that. Around here the deer would just figure it was a dining table.

 I have reservations about PT wood in a garden- no knowledge of how much chemical , etc the plants could take up. -have seen some beds like that where they used a poly liner between the dirt and the treated material.
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 12:22:41 AM »
The old pt wood had arsenic in it. Even so the amount of arsenic in the ground was less than that found in rice. Much noise for lil reason as we rushed to follow the Europeans in banning it. New pt is supposed to be harmless


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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 08:30:16 AM »
A crew at the shop recently sampled soil at a private school's playground.  The equipment was built out of PT timbers in the early 1990s, when CCA (copper, chromate, arsenic) was still in use.
All of the arsenic hits were above health based criteria for direct dermal soil contact.
Way higher than any naturally occuring background levels.

Since then, maybe 2002, CCA has been replaced with a different compound.  Not sure of it's chemistry or mobility, but obstesibly less harmful.  I recommend a solid shot of the googlez and DYODD.
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2015, 08:43:08 AM »
Look at the recommended "dermal contact levels" and then compare with rice that is safe to eat. And then see why the euro standards are bogus


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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 08:49:40 AM »
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 09:22:42 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 22, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
Look at the recommended "dermal contact levels" and then compare with rice that is safe to eat

Rice high 500 parts per billion per Consumer Reports (yea, yea, find your own numbers)
Direct contact 7,600 parts per billion per my state's cleanup criteria laws

Soil results from playground with CCA - 20,000 parts per billion.

ETA drinking water criteria. 4600 ppb.
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 11:51:54 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 22, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
Look at the recommended "dermal contact levels" and then compare with rice that is safe to eat. And then see why the euro standards are bogus.

And potatoes and other root vegetables, shellfish, (lobster, especially), etc.  Back during the years I spent passing GaAs, there was some speculation that As is a necessary micro-nutrient, but I don't know how that turned out.
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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 11:54:55 AM »
You could build a nice raised garden out of those interlocking landscape stones, too  ;)

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Re: Building An Elevated Garden
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 11:55:45 AM »
Quote from: RocketMan on June 22, 2015, 11:51:54 AM
Back during the years I spent passing GaAs,


I heard you still pass gas to this day.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 03:39:24 PM »
Quote from: Ben on June 22, 2015, 11:55:45 AM
I heard you still pass gas to this day.

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No arsenic in the gas I pass these days.  =D
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 03:50:56 PM »
Quote from: Tuco on June 22, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
Rice high 500 parts per billion per Consumer Reports (yea, yea, find your own numbers)
Direct contact 7,600 parts per billion per my state's cleanup criteria laws

Soil results from playground with CCA - 20,000 parts per billion.

ETA drinking water criteria. 4600 ppb.

Background in "normal " soil is 5000


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