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David Cameron goes full retard on surveillance state
« on: July 13, 2015, 08:08:16 PM »
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theopriestley/2015/07/13/all-instant-messaging-could-be-killed-in-the-uk-within-weeks/

Quote from: David Cameron
“In our country, do we want to allow a means of communication between people which we cannot read?

“My answer to that question is: ‘No, we must not’.
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« Last Edit: July 14, 2015, 12:32:22 PM by Balog »
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Re: David Cameron goes full retard on surveillance state
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 12:15:47 PM »

Only a handful of companies can or will comply with such a law. It'd take a significant amount of work to backdoor everything and theoretically "secure" said backdoors. Some companies and projects are ideologically opposed to such a thing, oddly enough. It won't work and the UK's GDP won't make it universally appealing. $2.678T is roughly the size of California or a combination of Texas and Florida. Not peanuts, but enough to justify massive amounts of work that won't be directly compensated? Eh, not likely.

Virtually no open source code will allowable in the UK, and virtually no open source projects will comply with the requirements. That alone will do some interesting things to the UK industry, development, etc.
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Re: David Cameron goes full retard on surveillance state
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 01:14:36 PM »
Seems as if enforcement on English subjects and visitors will be a major problem if the servers and app download sites are outside the U.K. . . . unless the Brit government decides to impose electronic media controls and restrictions on a par with those in North Korea.
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Re: David Cameron goes full retard on surveillance state
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2015, 01:32:45 PM »
Seems as if enforcement on English subjects and visitors will be a major problem if the servers and app download sites are outside the U.K. . . . unless the Brit government decides to impose electronic media controls and restrictions on a par with those in North Korea.

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Re: David Cameron goes full retard on surveillance state
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2015, 01:33:21 PM »
If it saves but one life...

Meh, unless it's a mugger or crackhead saved, UK isn't interested.

If it can catch folks who defend their home or person against muggers, rapists and other misunderstood youth, then yeah, they'll dump billions into it. Go read the Reddit thread on self-defense, the UK ones will specifically state that they went to jail for the most clear cut self-defense imaginable.
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Re: David Cameron goes full retard on surveillance state
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 03:47:29 PM »
To have absolute control over your subjects, you must make them helpless and incapable of even the most basic acts of self-reliance: self preservation or self-defense, protection of your own life.

The State must be relied on as the sole intermediary for EVERYTHING, even if it gets you killed.
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