Obama Pushes for Gay Rights in Kenya

[Ben]

If ever there was a First-Worlder completely out of touch...

The Kenyan President gave Obama a reality check about maybe worrying more about terrorism and crazy warlords on the continent, and hey, how about keeping people from dying because of crappy water and stuff? Maybe that's more important than a particular group having its feelings hurt. Seems like Kenya has a lot more stuff to address before they have the luxury of discussing microaggressions.

http://twitchy.com/2015/07/25/kenyan-president-gay-rights-not-foremost-on-the-minds-of-kenyan-people-naked-protest-postponed/

In the meantime, how are things in the Sudan?

[Stand_watie]

If the Kenyan president had threatened his life for his remarks, and had him kicked out of the country; he'd have Kerry over there with his hat in his hand in a couple months offering a much bigger aid package.

Kenyans ought to learn from Iranians how to negotiate with this administration.

[Tallpine]

So that village in Kenya does not want its idiot back? 

[vaskidmark]

So that village in Kenya does not want its idiot back? 

Not so sure about that

http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/c23d37d/2147483647/resize/652x%3E/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2Fbb%2Ffa%2Fef59ecb1454b99fd382435e75fc4%2F150722-obamakenya-editorial.jpg

But then there's the response of that lady in the center of the picture.

stay safe.

[lee n. field]

If the Kenyan president had threatened his life for his remarks,

Which Kenyan president, theirs or ours?

[Stand_watie]

Which Kenyan president, theirs or ours?

The Kenyan president is a God fearing decent man who may have weird customs but is a guy I'd be happy to have as part of my family....sheesh. The American President is bad enough but the American sec. of state is the one who makes me feel like I don't want to admit I'm from New England/America. I'm from darkest peru. My name is Paddington the bear.

[Hawkmoon]

Not so sure about that

http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/c23d37d/2147483647/resize/652x%3E/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2Fbb%2Ffa%2Fef59ecb1454b99fd382435e75fc4%2F150722-obamakenya-editorial.jpg

But then there's the response of that lady in the center of the picture.

Wait a second.

Kenya is in Africa, isn't it? So the people in that photo would be Africans, right? Why don't the so-called "African-Americans" I see around my city look like those people? I don't see African-Americans (none of whom have ever seen Africa) around here wearing suits and ties. The males generally wear jeans that ride halfway down the cheeks of their butts, and/or "shorts" that are nearly as long as what some older men wear as trousers. And the "African-American" women generally wear ... well, let's not go there.

[Jamisjockey]

Here's the thing that is really brought to light by this, the latest international fumble by this inept administration:
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE DEALING WITH.
That's what it boils down to.  Obama and his ilk want to ascribe western liberal values to countries like Iran and Kenya.  They think that playing nice or being soft in the middle east will calm tensions.  They think that Kenya gives two *expletive deleted*s about gay rights. 
Naivety, pure and simple.  These people are clueless.

[SADShooter]

Here's the thing that is really brought to light by this, the latest international fumble by this inept administration:
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE DEALING WITH.
That's what it boils down to.  Obama and his ilk want to ascribe western liberal values to countries like Iran and Kenya.  They think that playing nice or being soft in the middle east will calm tensions.  They think that Kenya gives two *expletive deleted*s about gay rights. 
Naivety, pure and simple.  These people are clueless.

Rewarding campaign contributors with ambassadorships to countries about which they don't know basic facts or have never visited doesn't help.

[Ron]

Same mistake "we" made under Bush in Iraq. Imposing freedom and democracy will turn Iraq into a model for others to emulate, hurray America! I was guilty of this thinking myself, but in my defense I'm not a foreign policy expert charged with managing international relations of the worlds foremost superpower.

The Obama administration is embarrassing to such a degree that I'm inclined to believe they actually want to destroy our status and power in the world.

The narcissism emanating from this administration is palpable.

[Ben]

Much truth in the above posts. This administration thinks being a "community activist" will work in other countries. They might get away with it in the EU, but they have little understanding of the priorities of second and third world countries. "Problems" like diversity, inclusion, and other "hurt feelings" issues only pop up after a society has handled real problems. To bring those kinds of issues up as priorities anywhere on the African continent, or really, 50% of the populated world, is the height of ignorance and arrogance.

I also agree regarding ambassadorships. The Obama administration has taken it to new all time lows, but in fairness,  it has existed in most administrations I think, at least in recent history. Past administrations seem to have been better at appointing their buddies to places like Lichtenstein, where they can't do much damage. Obama has been appointing worthless people to key stations. From what I've read, it has really pissed off the Diplomatic Corps.

[SADShooter]

I thought about adding that caveat, Ben, but you illustrate why I didn't. Most prior cases had some nominal experience or credibility. Hasn't there been a case under Obama where the designee to Sweden or Norway couldn't answer an obvious question? I mean at least put them in a room with a staffer and the CIA fact sheet for a couple of hours and pretend you give a damn.

[Scout26]

I thought about adding that caveat, Ben, but you illustrate why I didn't. Most prior cases had some nominal experience or credibility. Hasn't there been a case under Obama where the designee to Sweden or Norway couldn't answer an obvious question? I mean at least put them in a room with a staffer and the CIA fact sheet for a couple of hours and pretend you give a damn.

One would think that after being nominated to the post the nominated individual could at least Google the name of their designated country and read the Wikipedia page.   Last I checked there is some time lag (more than say 15 minutes) from being selected to appearing before the Senate committee, so going in unprepared just goes to show how completely moronic and idiotic these nominees are....

[MechAg94]

Much truth in the above posts. This administration thinks being a "community activist" will work in other countries. They might get away with it in the EU, but they have little understanding of the priorities of second and third world countries. "Problems" like diversity, inclusion, and other "hurt feelings" issues only pop up after a society has handled real problems. To bring those kinds of issues up as priorities anywhere on the African continent, or really, 50% of the populated world, is the height of ignorance and arrogance.

I also agree regarding ambassadorships. The Obama administration has taken it to new all time lows, but in fairness,  it has existed in most administrations I think, at least in recent history. Past administrations seem to have been better at appointing their buddies to places like Lichtenstein, where they can't do much damage. Obama has been appointing worthless people to key stations. From what I've read, it has really pissed off the Diplomatic Corps.

An old failing that few talk about.  Ignorance which their egos will not admit or even see.  They refuse to let reality intrude on their liberal socialist world view. 

[AJ Dual]

Here's the thing that is really brought to light by this, the latest international fumble by this inept administration:
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE DEALING WITH.
That's what it boils down to.  Obama and his ilk want to ascribe western liberal values to countries like Iran and Kenya.  They think that playing nice or being soft in the middle east will calm tensions.  They think that Kenya gives two *expletive deleted*s about gay rights. 
Naivety, pure and simple.  These people are clueless.

Only half true. I think you're right about Kenya, but I think Obama and Jarrett and co. fully understand what Iran, ISIS etc. are all about. They simply don't care (much). They view the world in the scheme of the unfair winners and losers, that with your typical Leftist zero-sum-game thinking, everything Europe and America and Western Civ in general has achieved has come at the expense of the Third World.

In their mind, Iran's a loser who's been treated unfairly by the UK and the US, and giving them status and power is more important in the "long run", in their attempt to play Harrison Bergeron with the world wherever they could, than any "short term" downsides, such as it happening at the expense of women's rights, human rights, or whatever "bad stuff" is happening over there.

Which is ironic, because the Left always rails against "top down economics", but they always play "top down" socially, which of course is why all the large scale genocide, be it the National Socialists, or various flavors of Marxists/Communists have the biggest body counts. When you're obsessed with the "rights" of groups, or of states... no one individual is safe.

[roo_ster]

The Inside Story of the Feud Between the Obama and Kenyatta Clans

http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-inside-story-of-the-feud-between-the-obama-and-kenyatta-clans/

With President Obama in Kenya meeting Kenyan supremo Uhuru Kenyatta, son of Jomo Kenyatta, the American newsmedia are full of think pieces on the Meaning of It All, almost none of which mention that Barack Jr.’s dad was the anchor witness in the trial of the hired gunman in the most traumatic assassination plot in Kenya’s history, the murder of Luo statesman and Obama Sr.’s mentor, Tom Mboya, an assassination many Luo believe may have been ordered by Uhuru’s dad.

That would be too interesting.

Although the New York Times has been running essays drawn from Obama’s Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance, nobody seems to have noticed a line in the book suggesting that the Obama clan hated Kenyatta.

More at the link.