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Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:17:49 PM »
Is there such an animal? I'm watching some Western or another, set in 1880s Colorado, and one character has a "Springfield .45." I figured they meant an 1873, but when we see the weapon, it's a brass-framed lever-action.

Just typical Hollyweird carelessness?
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Re: Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 02:20:26 AM »
Carelessness.

Springfield Armory back then was the official goverment firearms manufacturer. I'm not aware that they ever made anything with a lever action. The original Henry lever action had a brass receiver, but it was chambered in .44 Rimfire. The Winchester 1866 "Yellowboy" was also a brass receiver, but obviously not made by o4 at Springfield. It was also chambered in .44 Rimfire.

The 1873 was the first Winchester lever action to have a steel receiver. But it was in .44-40, .38-40 and .32-20. It was never chambered for .45 Colt or .45 Schofield.
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Re: Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 09:28:07 AM »
"The 1873 was the first Winchester lever action to have a steel receiver. But it was in .44-40, .38-40 and .32-20. It was never chambered for .45 Colt or .45 Schofield."

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that both the 1873 and the 1886 introduced steel receivers at the same time.

Prior to that, the receiver on the 1873 wasn't steel, but an iron receiver, which was more than suitable for the black powder in use at the time.
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Re: Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 12:31:09 PM »
The predecessor to the 1866 was the 1860 Henry.  It also had a brass frame and used the 44 rimfire round, and also did not come from Springfield.  I suspect the label is from a clueless script writer, probably the same one who invented glock revolvers.
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Re: Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 02:19:31 PM »
The predecessor to the 1866 was the 1860 Henry.  It also had a brass frame and used the 44 rimfire round, and also did not come from Springfield.  I suspect the label is from a clueless script writer, probably the same one who invented glock revolvers.


The script guy probably didn't put the Yellow Boy in the actor's hands. Maybe the producers just couldn't be bothered to procure the right gun. Or maybe the script guy should have known which guns they had to play with.
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Re: Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2015, 02:29:29 PM »
Probably the same guy who gave Sgt. Schultz a Krag .30-40 to guard Stalag 13...
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Re: Brass-framed, Springfield lever-action
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2015, 07:02:17 PM »
Generally weapons that were in non standard chamberings were kept in the nation of origin.

Troops on service in France were often armed with MAS 36 rifles or  pistols chambered in 32 Long.

You wouldn't have seen such weapons in Germany.
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