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Do you think Paul Ryan is a good (enough) pick for House Speaker?

Paul Ryan will provide the effective leadership for which we've been waiting.
2 (5.3%)
He couldn't be any worse than the other clowns.
17 (44.7%)
Whatever. Don't care. / Paul who?
5 (13.2%)
Ryan will be as bad/worse than Boehner.
9 (23.7%)
I hate Paul Ryan, and everything he stands for!
2 (5.3%)
I'm voting for Donald Trump!
3 (7.9%)

Total Members Voted: 38

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Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« on: October 21, 2015, 09:31:29 AM »
I'm just curious to know what the sages of APS have to say about this fellow.

Personally, I'd like to know how good he is at crying, and I find his skin less orange than I'd like.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 09:39:38 AM »
As bad as Bohner. 
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 09:47:52 AM »
Fistful for speaker, he can't screw it up any more then what it is. Plus there is a hope it may get better with him as speaker.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 10:59:41 AM »
Check out his stance on immigration.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 11:16:41 AM »
I don't like his immigration idealism. But if he's willing to combat on budget issues I'd be willing to let him have a crack. I trust the Freedom Caucus to keep him in line on immigration.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2015, 11:26:27 AM »
It doesn't seem like he really wants the job, which is one reason why so many want him to take it. I don't know that he's aggressive and assertive enough for the job.

It's also a thankless job. Newt Gingrich was arguably one of the best Speakers we've had in decades, and most of the country hated him.

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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2015, 11:48:44 AM »
I don't think he'll be as bad as boehner, but that's not saying much.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2015, 01:42:01 PM »
I don't think he'll be as bad as boehner, but that's not saying much.

This.

He got early Tea Party and Conservative cred with his alternative budgets and Obamacare replacements that involved cross-state insurance licensing, and getting all the price competition into healthcare as was possible. However, he succumbed to realpolitik too often, and instead of putting his foot down and refusing to vote for things, even if it meant a Pyrrhic Victory, he supported unpopular things, with the rationale "It would pass anyway" and "we got XYZ in trade" or whatever.

In actual practice, he's a conservative leaning, but establishment "this is how things get done" kind of guy. And too much of America, well, at least the half of it that's Conservative/Libertarian/informed/supply-side in economic outlook is far too fed up with things already to stomach any "compromise".
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 02:05:23 PM »
As bad as Bohner. 
Worse. He wants to eliminate the option of removing the Speaker in the middle of the term. He also supports the stopgap spending measures that Boehner did that gives Obama carte' blanche power to screw us over.

Right now, only Speaker candidate that might be tolerable is Hensarling.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2015, 02:32:31 PM »
He's an open borders guy.

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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2015, 02:49:00 PM »
Paul Ryan = same song, second verse.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2015, 03:33:37 PM »
The fact that he wants to change the rules that have been in effect since the founding of the country, so as to insulate himself from the consequences of whatever he does or doesn't do, AS A PREREQUISITE FOR ALLOWING HIMSELF TO BECOME THIRD IN LINE FOR THE PRESIDENCY, is all I need to know in order to know that we don't want him as Speaker.

He doesn't want to be Speaker of the House, he wants to be King of the House.

Besides, Obama likes him. 'Nuff said.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2015, 04:03:37 PM »

^^^^^So does that criminal, Harry Reed, the former head of the Gestapo Senate.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2015, 10:48:14 AM »
Can I change my answer for 'can't be worse' to 'as bad or worse than boehner?'
Sounds like he's going to back boehners sell out budget deal. *spit*
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2015, 11:37:55 AM »
So much for a representative republic.....
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2015, 01:47:47 PM »
No ones surprised are they?


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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2015, 12:37:46 PM »
He made it official this morning. 
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 09:31:16 AM »
All but 8 GOP representatives voted for Ryan.

Remember this next election when they make noise on conservative/liberty/civilizational issues.
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 09:38:54 PM »
Interesting insight on why Boehner quit (I'm putting it here because I can't find the "Boehner quits" thread).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPPKV-FZk8


P.S.  I got a feeling the Republican "Leadership" hates Ted and he never gets invited to any of the DC "cool kids" parties.

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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2015, 10:00:13 PM »
Boehner is pronounced "Boner",nuff said!
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Re: Paul Ryan for Speaker?
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2015, 09:02:10 AM »
Interesting insight on why Boehner quit (I'm putting it here because I can't find the "Boehner quits" thread).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPPKV-FZk8


P.S.  I got a feeling the Republican "Leadership" hates Ted and he never gets invited to any of the DC "cool kids" parties.



That is a good sign.  Still not enthusiastic about Cruz, due to his neoconnery and Israel-uber-alles-ism.  But the GOP could do worse. (And probably will!)


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