Author Topic: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.  (Read 2891 times)

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2015, 05:27:16 PM »
When I went away to college, my parents bought a TV/VCR combo - 13" screen. It was the first TV they'd had in years, and the first with a remote. The one we had before that - purchased new in the late '80s - was a 13" black and white.

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2015, 07:39:41 PM »
Not really. VHS had 2-4x the run time. Betamax's picture quality was only slightly better, and that was only when you used the normal 1 hour cassettes, which are useless for most feature-length films; if you used the 2 hour cassettes, the picture quality was pretty much the same. Then VHS HQ came out and pretty much erased the remaining difference.

Betamax just didn't have any significant advantages over VHS, and it cost a lot more to boot.

This is pretty much how I remember it.


Beta tapes  came in a few lengths;
L 250 :    this gave me one hour in the beta ll speed  (I never owned a betamax that would record in the beta L speed)
L 500 :    this gave me 2 hrs in beta ll and 3 in the slow beta lll.
L 750  :    IIRC this provided at most 4 1/2 hours.
L  830  :  This rare tape lasted 5 hours, about all you could get from the Beta format.

VHS  was available in T 60,  T 120, and T 160 formats, the last providing 8 hours.   I have a Panasonic DVD/VHS deck that has a Sslp mode that makes a tape last 5 times (as opposed to the normal 3X) the regular runtime, ie, a 2 hour tape will go 10 hours.  I don't use this mode as I have no other VHS machine that will play it.....and the quality is inferior.
When HQ came out it pretty much erased a lot of the betamax's advantage.
Beta had other advantages....it had fewer sharp turns in the tape path and thus tapes lasted longer (more rerecords).
Hi Fi sound introduced earlier....Sony mistakenly believed  VHS   could not have HiFi, but forgot to tell JVC this, so JVC simply invented their own version.
I will not miss the end of beta tapes being made....
BUT let me say this.  I started in beta, went over to VHS.....then to DVD.   Now I  have  bluray.....
whoever invents the next format, I will  make it my life quest to hunt down,  horribly torture, and viciously kill.
ENOUGH FORMATS!  
ENOUGH!
NO MORE !
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2015, 08:18:18 PM »
Our first VCR had a corded remote.  I think I was 9 years old or something when we got that.  I think Star Trek II:  The Wrath of Khan was the first movie we rented, but it is hard to remember.  The VCR was front load.  My Dad later got a video camera.  It attached to a two piece VCR.  One half held the tape and battery and went in a shoulder pack to carry with the camera. 

I think it was in Back to the Future that Marty had one of the first portable video cameras that had the VCR tape deck in the hand held.  Perhaps I should add "affordable" to that statement.
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2015, 11:27:31 AM »
I still laugh at the modern equivalent to this fight. A buddy of mine who's an "expert..." on all things A/V bet on HD-DVD less then a month before that war was settled. Still has it hooked up, sitting under his PS3 next to all 14 movies he was able to buy for it. :lol:

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2015, 02:28:37 PM »
I guess I didn't see it as a fight, just different impressions of what happened.  It is over now anyway.  They are both outdated formats.  Now we can move on to a thread about CD's versus Vinyl records!
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2015, 02:51:38 PM »
I guess I didn't see it as a fight, just different impressions of what happened.  It is over now anyway.  They are both outdated formats.  Now we can move on to a thread about CD's versus Vinyl records!

Low bitrate MP3s played through high dollar tube amps?

Besides, everyone knows 8-tracks RULE!

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2015, 05:30:11 PM »
Low bitrate MP3s played through high dollar tube amps?

Besides, everyone knows 8-tracks RULE!

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2015, 09:43:55 PM »
I have a pair of ordinary cans, but connected by truly high quality string. 
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2015, 10:38:52 PM »
I have a pair of ordinary cans, but connected by truly high quality string. 

Unless the string is a hand twisted natural fiber (Yucca is the best) and waxed with pure beeswax it's a waste of effort.
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2015, 10:48:14 PM »
Unless the string is a hand twisted natural fiber (Yucca is the best) and waxed with pure beeswax it's a waste of effort.


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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2015, 10:50:12 PM »
Unless the string is a hand twisted natural fiber (Yucca is the best) and waxed with pure beeswax it's a waste of effort.

Are the cans recycled steel? They have to be recycled steel.

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2015, 07:15:44 AM »
Are the cans recycled steel? They have to be recycled steel.

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No, but they're organic heirloom steel from a local source.

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2015, 08:18:43 AM »
Unless the string is a hand twisted natural fiber (Yucca is the best) and waxed with pure beeswax it's a waste of effort.

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2015, 01:23:26 PM »
Every true hipster knows the best natural fiber is hemp.

He was using Yucca fiber ironically.
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2015, 10:08:33 PM »
My dad had a talent for picking odd formats. Reel to reel audiotape. 8 track. Betamax (top loading, corded remote, and the damned thing ran forever).
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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2015, 12:02:29 AM »

True audiophiles use only wax cylinders.

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Re: Guess I'll have to update everything to VHS.
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2015, 04:59:42 PM »
My dad had a talent for picking odd formats. Reel to reel audiotape. 8 track. Betamax (top loading, corded remote, and the damned thing ran forever).

Reel to reel is NOT odd!   :mad:
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