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Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« on: February 01, 2016, 11:47:11 AM »
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2016/01/shocking-confessions-naturopathic-doctor.html

NDs are popular in this area. We have one of the leading ND training schools here: Bastyr University, where I have given risk management lectures. 

The oncology ND the post refers to used to practice in this area until he ran afoul of the Feds and state licensing people for the reasons cited in the post. 
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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2016, 12:42:53 PM »
How much actual medical research is done into those sorts of treatments/therapies?  I assume some as the industry would love to find new ways to make money on the cheap. 
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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2016, 01:49:49 PM »
Sometimes they do catch stuff that a regular doctor misses (which is more of an indictment of the doctors in question).  My girlfriend has a thyroid balance problem, blood tests confirm it.  Her doctors (an internist and a endocrinologist) kept giving her higher and higher doses of medication that were not helping.  She went to a naturopath who ordered a food allergy panel.  It came back that she is allergic to wheat, whey, gluten, eggs, peanuts, soy, and several other things.  Most of the allergies were minor, but whey and soy are just short of the "you will go into anaphylactic shock and die" level. 

She changed her diet and the thyroid problem mostly went away, it is controllable by low dose medication now.  She gets sick a lost less often and recovers quicker.  We're hoping that long term avoiding those foods will remove the need for medication entirely.

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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2016, 02:00:25 PM »
Where's the shocking part? Everything there is exactly what I expect from "alternative medicine."
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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2016, 02:46:48 PM »
Where's the shocking part? Everything there is exactly what I expect from "alternative medicine."
Hey, they formed their own bureaucracy with official accreditation and everything.  I don't think they are very unique.
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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 02:56:41 PM »
Does this remind anyone else of a certain Seinfeld episode?

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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 03:29:29 PM »
I detected a strong anti-ND bias in that article, as well as a lot of questionable "information." Perhaps the particular school of naturopathic medicine this (former) ND attended is questionable, but that doesn't automatically condemn the entire field.

My state is one that licenses naturopathic physicians. Over the years, I have been to two different ones, and a friend (whose father was a professor of "real" medicine at Yale University) became an ND a few years ago. I can't imagine an ND being taught chiropractic -- the education requirement to become a chiropractor is at least as long as that for an ND. I don't know about other states, but in my state an ND can't practice chiropractic, and a chiropractor can't practice naturopathic (or any other kind of) medicine.

I think ND's fill a need and have a place. I had never heard of a "naturopathic oncologist," however, and if I had cancer an ND would likely be the LAST kind of doctor I would consult.
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Re: Naturopathic doctors: the shocking confessions
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2016, 11:27:26 PM »
Naturopaths have their place.  There are times that conventional western medicine doesn't have the answers, or just makes things worse.  But, for the most part, I prefer my regular doctors.  I just take much of what they say with a grain of salt, and filter much of it through some personal experience. 
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