Cool graph - violence & gunz

[Perd Hapley]

http://blog.joehuffman.org/2016/06/23/the-mask-drops/


Also, the UK has a higher rate of violent crime than South Africa?! 

Canada and France have higher rates then the U.S.?

[230RN]

Bill Whittle put out a video on this very point.  Might be a little outdated by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

But trying to get an anti-gunner to watch the whole thing is like... well, they've got their own "firewall."  The visual impact of that graph is much better, and thanks.

Once again, though, it's the choir talking to itself.

[Perd Hapley]

The international stats supposedly come from the E.U. and/or the U.N. I'll have to look those up. I thought we had a higher rate of violence than most countries.

[roo_ster]

The international stats supposedly come from the E.U. and/or the U.N. I'll have to look those up. I thought we had a higher rate of violence than most countries.

We have higher rates of homicide with firearms.  We have higher rates of violent crime than some, not all, Euro countries.  Outside of Europe all bets are off, given how violent most places on Earth tend to be and how corrupt is the median country in the UN.

[AJ Dual]

And consider how other nations "Cook the Books". The U.S. DOJ/FBI stats list all homicides as the intentional death of another that wasn't accidental or natural in cause.

The U.K. lists only "murders" that were convicted as murders etc. Manslaughter and lesser pleas/convictions are "something else".

Japan, someone kills his family, then commits suicide, it's swept under the rug as "four suicides" etc.

[230RN]

RE ^
http://www.guncite.com/journals/dkjgc.html

Japan also suffers from double or multiple suicides, shinju. Parents bent on suicide take their children with them, at the rate of one per day, in oyako-shinju. In fact, 17 per cent of all Japanese officially defined as homicide victims are children killed by suicidal parents.[121] One reason that the official Japanese homicide rate is so low is that if a Japanese woman slits her children's throats and then kills herself, police statistics sometimes record it as a family suicide, rather than a sensational murder. Thus, Japan's tight family structures, which keep the overall crime rate low, are not unalloyed blessings.

This all, by Dave Kopel.  Especially worth reading closely is Section VIII, Conclusion.

In part:

In short, while many persons may admire Japan's near prohibition of gun ownership, it is not necessarily true that other nations, such as the United States, could easily replicate the (p.41)Japanese model. Japan's gun laws grow out of a culture premised on voluntary submission to authority, a cultural norm that is not necessarily replicated in Western democracies.

Terry