Scout Will This Keep You From Fostering/Adopting

[wmenorr67]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/14/illinois-gun-restrictions-unfairly-target-foster-parents-lawsuit-claims.html

Prospective Illinois foster parents must either certify that there are no firearms in their home or complete a form called the Foster Family Firearms Arrangement. That document requires a list of all guns and ammunition in the home and locations where they are stored. Would-be foster parents also must certify the guns have trigger locks and are stored unloaded, separate from ammunition and in locked containers accessible only with a key kept off the premises or on the owner’s person.

This is a bullshit law and that it should be struck down. 

[Perd Hapley]

Sounds like a good way to keep some people out of the fostering game.

[makattak]

Sounds like a good way to keep some people knuckle-dragging troglodytes out of the fostering game.

FTFY, from the perspective of those who created this law.

[Hawkmoon]

When my late wife and I adopted her granddaughter, the adoption services agency required that all firearms and ammunition be stored in locked containers. The state has a law that firearms must be locked up if there are children under the age of 16 in the household, but the law doesn't address ammunition. That didn't dissuade the adoption social worker. Just like when she claimed that "the code" required carbon monoxide detectors and I pointed out to her that enforcing "the code" was what I did for a living and that it did NOT apply retroactively to 55 year-old houses, her response was, "We have our own rules." Same response when I reminded her that the law doesn't require ammunition to be locked up.

Ohhhh-kaaaaaaay ...

[slugcatcher]

Child services in every state is run by bleeding heart liberals with an agenda .  We ran into  this mentality in Texas when we started the adoption process.  We were told each firearm had to be locked in it's own case and each lock can only have one unique key. The firearms also had to be locked in a room that only had one key to it's lock.  All ammunition had to be lock in a different room that had one unique key to it's lock as well.  I as for a copy of the policy/law that allowed them to make these rules.  I was mailed a bunch of emails cut up and  taped together with all names, emails and  dates removed.  No law or policy was stated.  It was just a bunch of hand wringing and buck passing until somebody made something up.  My gun room has a locked, reinforced door with two gunsafes and the ammunition is locked in the closet as well.  We hit a roadblock at that point and my wife pointed out that they didn't know about the reloading equipment yet and it would just get worse.  The entire process is a cluster.  Our paperwork sat on someone's desk for 6 months while she rode out her retirement date.  We couldn't get anyone to call us back or even look for our paperwork until a week after she retired.  We finally just dropped the whole thing.  They would rather push their agenda than put kids in loving and caring homes. 

[roo_ster]

  They would rather push their agenda than put kids in loving and caring homes. 

That is because they are evil.

[lupinus]

Well if the system was efficient it wouldn't support so much dead weight.


Sent from my iPhone. Freaking autocorrect.

[Scout26]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/14/illinois-gun-restrictions-unfairly-target-foster-parents-lawsuit-claims.html

This is a bullshit law and that it should be struck down. 

It's not a law, it's a DCFS "policy".  As such, each private agency (and I'm licensed through a private agency) has their own policies/rules.  All they ask was if the guns and ammo were kept "locked up".  Didn't ask if it was a gun safe or a plastic box. (although I told them gun safes.)

Same thing with going out of state.  With DCFS you have to ask permission from them well in advance if you cross the state line it used to be in actual writing and wait for them to reply, in writing.  Now they will do it via e-mail, a change within the last 2-3 years.  However, my agency says that if you are "over the border" for less then 24 hours (and not overnight) then you don't need permission. 

Also it's very difficult to find out what the rules are.  So in essence, you ask permission for just about everything.  You also document everything (and save e-mails !!!)

[wmenorr67]

It's not a law, it's a DCFS "policy".  As such, each private agency (and I'm licensed through a private agency) has their own policies/rules.  All they ask was if the guns and ammo were kept "locked up".  Didn't ask if it was a gun safe or a plastic box. (although I told them gun safes.)

Same thing with going out of state.  With DCFS you have to ask permission from them well in advance if you cross the state line it used to be in actual writing and wait for them to reply, in writing.  Now they will do it via e-mail, a change within the last 2-3 years.  However, my agency says that if you are "over the border" for less then 24 hours (and not overnight) then you don't need permission. 

Also it's very difficult to find out what the rules are.  So in essence, you ask permission for just about everything.  You also document everything (and save e-mails !!!)

And they wonder why good people tend to shy away from being foster parents.

[seeker_two]

Child services in every state is run by bleeding heart liberals with an agenda .  We ran into  this mentality in Texas when we started the adoption process.  We were told each firearm had to be locked in it's own case and each lock can only have one unique key. The firearms also had to be locked in a room that only had one key to it's lock.  All ammunition had to be lock in a different room that had one unique key to it's lock as well.  I as for a copy of the policy/law that allowed them to make these rules.  I was mailed a bunch of emails cut up and  taped together with all names, emails and  dates removed.  No law or policy was stated.  It was just a bunch of hand wringing and buck passing until somebody made something up.  My gun room has a locked, reinforced door with two gunsafes and the ammunition is locked in the closet as well.  We hit a roadblock at that point and my wife pointed out that they didn't know about the reloading equipment yet and it would just get worse.  The entire process is a cluster.  Our paperwork sat on someone's desk for 6 months while she rode out her retirement date.  We couldn't get anyone to call us back or even look for our paperwork until a week after she retired.  We finally just dropped the whole thing.  They would rather push their agenda than put kids in loving and caring homes. 

This is why we went through a private agency for our adoption. They required that the guns & ammo were locked up for the home studies, but nothing more was said after that.  They even knew about our CHL's & didn't care.