Author Topic: Did Obama virtually admit non-violent "gun crimes" shouldn't be punished?  (Read 1396 times)

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The rest of the article's worth reading, but this stood out, to me:

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...almost all of the prisoners whose sentences were commuted were jailed for nonviolent drug crimes. Of course, a handful were found guilty of using or carrying a firearm during a drug trafficking crime, possession of stolen firearm, or being a felon in possession of a firearm.

What’s a handful? A quick review of the list of Wednesday’s commutations shows more than 50 prisoners convicted of firearms violations.

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/08/03/president-commutes-sentences-of-214-nonviolent-drug-offenders-50-with-firearms-violations/


If Barack Obama doesn't think non-violent "gun crimes" require punishment, then why enforce a universal background check law, or have any such paperwork requirement, to begin with? Or is he intending to pardon them just for the drug-related stuff? Either way, this makes an even bigger joke out of his alleged concerns about "gun crimes." But since he cried about it, we're all supposed to believe him.
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Obama - Executive Clemency - Guns
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 10:51:40 PM »
So apparently Obama has in one fell swoop just pardoned more criminals than all Presidents combined over the last nearly 100 years. It looks like most all of them were drug related crimes, but many of them included firearm offenses. He was even grilled about it by the MSM of all entities, who asked him how he could push gun control but let gun criminals go free. His excuse was that he only pardoned those who carried, but did not use their gun. He didn't pardon anyone who pulled the trigger.

Digging into the records seems to indicate that most of those pardoned were already felons when they got pinched, so were illegally in possession of a firearm. Also it wasn't just some guy in possession of drugs and a firearm, it was also people actively trafficking in drugs when they got popped.

Yet he is persecuting law abiding gun owners that just want to carry their gun legally.

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2016/08/04/obama-excuses-firearms-offenses-if-the-criminal-didnt-shoot-can-law-abiding-gun-owners-get-a-break/
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Re: Obama - Executive Clemency - Guns
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 10:57:18 PM »
There's no point in looking for logic from his side.
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Re: Re: Obama - Executive Clemency - Guns
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 11:41:18 PM »
There's no point in looking for logic from his side.
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Fistful beat me to the topic by like five minutes. Thanks to whichever mod merged.
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Re: Obama - Executive Clemency - Guns
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2016, 12:11:58 AM »
His excuse was that he only pardoned those who carried, but did not use their gun. He didn't pardon anyone who pulled the trigger.


It's almost as if carrying a gun were not really a crime, since it hurts no one. Imagine that.
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The difference is they weren't carrying scary assault guns, just plain ol' drug guns. 
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Something to think about...

These people weren't pardoned, they had their sentences commuted.  They still have done time and will still have convictions on their records when released.  The question I have what is the over/under in months that most of them are back in custody for some reason or another?
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I'll put two bucks on 3 months in the over/under pool.

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The "MSM" challenged him on it?  Which news outlet was that?  I'll subscribe.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2016, 11:42:53 AM »
The more chaos the better. We must be in permanent crisis mode in order to further the leftist agendas.

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If Barack Obama doesn't think non-violent "gun crimes" require punishment, then why enforce a universal background check law, or have any such paperwork requirement, to begin with?

Allows for selective enforcement against those BHO and his sort do not like while letting those he does like to skate.  Textbook anarcho-tyranny. 

Sam Francis' term for "our bizzare criminal justice system that combines 'anarchy (the failure of the state to enforce the laws)' and 'tyranny - the enforcement of laws by the state for oppressive purposes'.

There's no point in looking for logic from his side.

Yes there is, as BHO is not nearly as smart as he is puffed up to be, but he is smart enough to know who his real enemies are.  No, not Putin, PRC, Iran, ISIS, etc.  But the American people, in particular middle and working class Americans.
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Just out of curiosity . . . has anything been published about the demographics (age, race, gender, etc.) of the crooks with sentences commuted by Obama?

I'm wondering if there's a disparate impact to any group due to a non-proportional distribution of the commutations . . .

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