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On "Hillary."
« on: November 06, 2016, 11:32:44 AM »
First, it's long bothered me that she's become a one-name celebrity. I am tempted to theorize that the Left brought that about, to make her seem more approachable - "Hillary," rather than "Hillary Clinton," or "Secretary Clinton." Doesn't make sense, though, as her last name is perhaps the primary reason why people have voted, or will vote, for her. But whatever the reason, why are we on a first-name basis with this nasty woman politician?

Second, that the Democrats even entertained giving her another go irks me, personally. I was immensely relieved when Obama deposed her 8 years ago. As noxious as Obama, and the cult of Obama, may be; at least it meant that the other sicko wouldn't ever be president, right? [tears out hair] That being said, I still think we're fortunate she's the candidate, versus any of the more personable, less scandal-ridden; but equally left-wing alternatives. If she is elected, I think that may continue to be the silver lining in the bizarre hold she seems to have on the Democratic Party. Even if not removed by impeachment, her ever-worsening history of crime and scandal may ham-string the Left's efforts during her term. Then again, the Left is remarkably adept at falling in line behind corrupt and incompetent leadership...
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 12:06:13 PM »
She may have engineered the move to just "Hillary" herself. She apparently doesn't (or didn't) like being "Mrs. Clinton." Remeber, she continued to use her maiden name (Hillary Rodham) when she was working as a lawyer, and I think that continued through Bill's time as Governor. I believe it wasn't until Bill started his run for President that she morphed into "Hillary Rodham Clinton."

And then, somewhere along the way, the "Rodham" part fell by the wayside, and then even the "Clinton" part started being down-played.

I wonder if she ever bothered to legally change her name from Hillary Rodham to Hillary Rodham Clinton, or just Hillary Clinton. Wouldn't it be a hoot if her legal name is still Hillary Rodham, so she can't be elected as "Hillary Clinton"?
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 12:20:16 PM »
I'm sure "someone" would find a multi layer PDF of a missing document that "proves" a legal name change.

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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2016, 02:32:11 PM »
From now on, I'll simply refer to her as 'MLFBW' -Monica Lewinsky's former boyfriend's wife.
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2016, 03:48:46 PM »
or "Monica's counterwieght "  :lol:
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2016, 03:55:49 PM »
I've noticed this too.

Presidents (and candidates) are usually known by last names.

Which do you recognize more?

Ford, Reagan, Carter, Bush, Clinton, Obama, etc
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Gerald, Ronald, Jimmy, George, Bill, Barack?

Hillary Clinton re-branding as just "Hillary" is, of course, a calculated play.  I believe it is a play at emphasizing female, and distancing herself from Bill Clinton.

It appears to have been effective.

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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2016, 05:52:25 PM »
Hillary Clinton re-branding as just "Hillary" is, of course, a calculated play.  I believe it is a play at emphasizing female, and distancing herself from Bill Clinton.

It appears to have been effective.

We'll see just how effective it was, but it's hard to believe that someone as power-hungry as Hillary Clinton would throw away her biggest vote-getter (the Clinton name).
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2016, 09:39:07 PM »
From now on, I'll simply refer to her as 'MLFBW' -Monica Lewinsky's former boyfriend's wife.

"Huma's Honey" would work, too.....
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2016, 11:39:21 PM »
First, it's long bothered me that she's become a one-name celebrity. I am tempted to theorize that the Left brought that about, to make her seem more approachable - "Hillary," rather than "Hillary Clinton," or "Secretary Clinton." Doesn't make sense, though, as her last name is perhaps the primary reason why people have voted, or will vote, for her.

The primary reason people will vote for her is named Donald.
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 12:20:34 AM »
Marketing and Brand Recognition.

"Clinton" is her husband.  You don't want to confuse the voters.
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 02:37:10 AM »
Yeah, I actually debated with myself on my signature line whether to use "Clinton" instead of "Hillary."  I do think it avoids confusion with Bill, so I went ahead with it as shown below.  Looking into my crystal ball, I faintly see another candidate some years down the road named "Chelsea."

Lawyers can chime in here, but I believe under common law, your name is whatever you hold yourself out to the public as.  The legal name-change process is basically just to compel others (like social security, driver's licensing bureaus, etc.) to recognize that.
 
While there is a "chain of identification" involved, which is supposedly necessary as a compelling interest of the state for official records, the actual process of changing one's name is really kinda up to the individual.

At least that's the way I understand it.  Feel free to flame/correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 07:26:01 AM »
The primary reason people will vote for her is named Donald.


Anti-Trump sentiment can hardly explain why Democratic primary voters chose an elderly candidate with a dubious track record, high negatives, and strong indicators (in early 2016) of illegality.
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 07:41:24 AM »

Anti-Trump sentiment can hardly explain why Democratic primary voters chose an elderly candidate with a dubious track record, high negatives, and strong indicators (in early 2016) of illegality.

Some would argue that the Democrat primary voters didn't really choose her.
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2016, 08:29:44 AM »
Some would argue that the Democrat primary voters didn't really choose her.


Your point is well-taken. Anti-Trump sentiment can hardly explain why Democratic primary voters Party bosses chose an elderly candidate with a dubious track record, high negatives, and strong indicators (in early 2016) of illegality.
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Re: On "Hillary."
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2016, 11:22:24 AM »
I'd just like to know whose fingerprints they'll get when she is finally arrested. Hillary's or the body double we've been watching since Sep. 11th.