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The other Chelsea
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:09:44 AM »
Chelsea (formerly Bradley) Manning, of course. Apparently he/she wants his/her sentence reduced before Obama leaves office. Seems a bit ridiculous to proclaim that he/she accepts full responsibility for his/her actions when he/she is asking for the sentence to be reduced by 29 years -- which is 83 percent reduction. That doesn't sound like accepting full responsibility -- it sounds more like accepting 17 percent responsibility.

I was amused to see that the New York Times is sticking with its lone holdout position of still using Mr., Mrs., or Ms. in front of last names. I think the NYT is currently the only newspaper in the country (maybe the world) that does that. And they refer to Manning as "Ms. Manning" despite the fact the he/she hasn't undergone gender reassignment surgery. Which is why I refer to him/her as "him/her." (Privately, I refer to it as "it." After all, it isn't female, but it doesn't want to be male. The only thing left is "it.") As far as I'm concerned he/she is still a she, but political correctness doesn't allow us to be aware of the obvious in such situations.

I think such people should be referred to as "it," but that's probably also not politically correct, so we need some new words. Not the stupid constructs the SJWs are trying to create, but something simple that adequately expresses the confused nature and status of such people. How about "himer"? Or "herim"?
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2016, 12:33:00 AM »
Someone (I think it was that Sargon fella) said that Trump should pardon whistle-blowers (he named Manning, Assange, and Snowden), to encourage other whistle-blowers to come forward - to facilitate swamp-cleaning.

And Hawkmoon, you give us your pronoun rules every time this comes up. Why you would call a man a woman, just because he's had an operation, I don't know, but ok...

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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2016, 02:13:01 AM »
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2016, 05:48:47 AM »
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2016, 08:24:52 AM »
Hell let it out, then the military won't have to pay for it to have its it cut off.
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2016, 08:48:41 AM »
Hell let it out, then the military won't have to pay for it to have its it cut off.

The military (tax payers) shouldn't pay for elective surgery anyway.
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2016, 08:55:28 AM »
The military (tax payers) shouldn't pay for elective surgery anyway.

Help me out here, I'm having a tough time keeping up to date...
Is that comment racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, treasonous, or just plain old blue collar ignorant?
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2016, 08:58:42 AM »
Help me out here, I'm having a tough time keeping up to date...
Is that comment racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, treasonous, or just plain old blue collar ignorant?

D. All of the above.

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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2016, 09:07:17 AM »
Help me out here, I'm having a tough time keeping up to date...
Is that comment racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, treasonous, or just plain old blue collar ignorant?

You left out "fiscally responsible." I'll vote for the one you left out.
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2016, 09:44:04 AM »

It's doubtful that will happen. Wikileaks and Manning I'd personally be opposed to pardoning. Snowden I would not. I do think Snowden crossed lines with exposing our foreign intelligence gathering, but the domestic unconstitutional activities exposed far dwarf those considerations. Unlike Wikileaks or Manning which just dumped raw files, Snowden took care to limit exposing individuals to risk and stuck to revealing programs.

I don't care about Manning's issues. Private Manning violated the law, the UCMJ and intended on causing harm to the military. Snowden's primary actions were revealing the scope of the US government's crimes against the American people.
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2016, 11:04:04 AM »
It's doubtful that will happen. Wikileaks and Manning I'd personally be opposed to pardoning. Snowden I would not. I do think Snowden crossed lines with exposing our foreign intelligence gathering, but the domestic unconstitutional activities exposed far dwarf those considerations. Unlike Wikileaks or Manning which just dumped raw files, Snowden took care to limit exposing individuals to risk and stuck to revealing programs.

I don't care about Manning's issues. Private Manning violated the law, the UCMJ and intended on causing harm to the military. Snowden's primary actions were revealing the scope of the US government's crimes against the American people.

Agreed. The two cases are not really at all similar (except superficially).
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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2016, 11:06:26 AM »
D. All of the above.

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Re: The other Chelsea
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2016, 11:07:25 AM »
Help me out here, I'm having a tough time keeping up to date...
Is that comment racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, treasonous, or just plain old blue collar ignorant?


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