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Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« on: April 07, 2017, 10:10:30 AM »
http://www.kctv5.com/story/35087809/liberal-preppers-survivalist-movement-gains-steam-in-united-states
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An outspoken liberal, he was never a fan of firearms, but he filled a safe with weapons and ammunition after Trump won the presidential election.

“These weapons are for defense in the event of civil unrest,” said Waugh. “Defense only.”

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Waugh told KCTV5 he no longer has the weapons he showed us for this story. He says he realized he’s not legally allowed to have them because of a 2011 conviction for domestic violence. He also said he removed himself from The Liberal Prepper Facebook group due to backlash after his criminal record was discovered.

So where did he purchase the firearms, if from a FFL, he lied on his 4473.  Either way he has committed another crime and IMHO should be charged.
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 10:38:24 AM »
So where did he purchase the firearms, if from a FFL, he lied on his 4473.

Shouldn't they know he lied or does that stuff not show up?


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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 10:43:47 AM »
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Members of the Facebook group said they’re tired of conservative hatred. “All your proverbial stuff: the snowflake, the welfare recipient, the Muslim sympathizer ... All this stuff gets really old really fast. And you realize that these people actually hate you,” said Waugh.

First, I'm impressed to see a journalist actually use the word "hatred," rather than "hate." That's rare.

Secondly, I notice that none of those things amount to hatred. Nor does the "death threat" actually threaten anyone.


So where did he purchase the firearms, if from a FFL, he lied on his 4473.  Either way he has committed another crime and IMHO should be charged.

Does opinion really come into it? Admit to a felony on TV - get charged, right? (Unless you're in the news media, of course.)
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 12:13:48 PM »
I wonder how he disposed of the firearms.  Is a "prohibited person" prohibited from selling firearms as well as prohibited from buying them?  Did he sell them via a face-to-face transaction, or did he use a dealer?  Maybe he gifted all the guns to someone, but I doubt that.  I think he would want the monetary value of the guns.
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 01:10:26 PM »
I wonder how he disposed of the firearms.  Is a "prohibited person" prohibited from selling firearms as well as prohibited from buying them?  Did he sell them via a face-to-face transaction, or did he use a dealer?  Maybe he gifted all the guns to someone, but I doubt that.  I think he would want the monetary value of the guns.

Point of order:  An FNS and a pump 12 ga is not a "Safe Full of firearms"  It's not even a "Backpack Full of Firearms"

Also I suspect he'd be better served, and prepared for civil unrest, by going for a couple runs rather than stockpiling food and cheap target ammo.  I'd bet money he "gave" his firearms to his wife and they congratulated themselves on how clever they were being putting one over on the man.

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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2017, 01:19:08 PM »
Absolute brilliance.

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KCTV5 turned to University of Missouri-Kansas City political expert Greg Vonnahme, who said congressional voting data confirms a deep political divide in the United States.
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He said two main issues are creating that division. First, he said people are more prone to negative party identification; they’re more likely to side with a certain party than with one.

Huh?  ???

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“We've also seen an increasing level of social polarization,” said Vonnahme. “People are less likely to know and talk about politics with people who are dissimilar from themselves."

The divide may be wide, but Vonnahme said it’s not widespread.

Huh? x2  ???  ???

And why would people discuss politics with those who disagree with them? It only leads to fights. Look at what happened to Milo, and Anne. My grandparents died in the early 1970s. Long before they died they advised us kids to never discuss politics in public ... because it created animosity and arguments.
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2017, 01:34:35 PM »
Both those quotes are unclear, but I feel I have parsed them:

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He said two main issues are creating that division. First, he said people are more prone to negative party identification; they’re more likely to side with a certain party than with one.

Pretty sure the quote is meant to say:

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He said two main issues are creating that division. First, he said people are more prone to negative party identification; they’re more likely to side against a certain party than with one.

That fits in the context of his interview and is what voiceover girl says in the video clip.


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The divide may be wide, but Vonnahme said it’s not widespread.

That's just lazy prose.  He means that the divide between partisans is wide, but most of the people in the country aren't partisans.  Most of the country is apathetic either way.


I also found this gem when listening to the interview:

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He has what he calls a "Bug Out Bag" which he'll fill with supplies for himself, his wife, and his cats should they need to leave quickly

Please, Please, Please, Please somebody film One Tubby Tubby bugging out with his wife and cats and his nylon duffle bag of supplies.  And the like 5 full bandoleers of shotgun slugs.

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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2017, 02:36:53 PM »
Point of order:  An FNS and a pump 12 ga is not a "Safe Full of firearms"  It's not even a "Backpack Full of Firearms"

Also I suspect he'd be better served, and prepared for civil unrest, by going for a couple runs rather than stockpiling food and cheap target ammo.  I'd bet money he "gave" his firearms to his wife and they congratulated themselves on how clever they were being putting one over on the man.
I was wondering about the "safe full of guns".  A liberal would probably think more than one fit that description. 
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2017, 02:40:07 PM »
The way I see it, a bug out bag is for dire emergency.  You aren't going to last long on foot unless you have a specific destination in mind or assume help will be available.  One bag for two people and cats?  I do not know.

IMO, you'd be better off finding a spot to hole up and stocking it adequately.  
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2017, 02:43:37 PM »
I can relate to the idea of most people being "against" one party or the other.  These days, there is often very little you can point to that you really like about the party you vote for.  Most politicians are self serving and each party has examples of poor track records and members who have done and said some nasty things.  You like to think about the one or two of them you actually like, but the guy on the other side is thinking about the scumbags you probably also hate.
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2017, 06:09:33 PM »
The way I see it, a bug out bag is for dire emergency.  You aren't going to last long on foot unless you have a specific destination in mind or assume help will be available.

Exactly; my plan is six miles to mom's place out of town.  As much of it as possible on the bike with a small pack and a shotgun.  Even if I have to walk and avoid roads, it's less than a day's trip, or a night if I need to be more discreet.

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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2017, 06:23:04 PM »
He's just whoring for attention so that he can broadcast his perjoratives about conservatives.
It would be hilarious if he were jailed for breaking the law though.
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Re: Liberal Prepper Admits To Breaking The Law
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2017, 02:02:32 PM »
"We need more laws, we need more laws!"

Oh.  Wait.

"We need less laws, we need less laws!
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