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The next thing of which you must approve.
« on: November 01, 2017, 03:50:13 PM »
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 03:56:41 PM »
The All in the Family reboot is going to be exploring much different themes than the original.
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 04:44:26 PM »
Relative morals are relative?  I don't know that you can draw a line that some of these people would not want to cross at some point. 
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 07:24:34 AM »
Pretty sure we ditched incest not because of relative morality, but because of science.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201210/the-problem-incest
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 08:51:16 AM »
Pretty sure we ditched incest not because of relative morality, but because of science.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201210/the-problem-incest


Why wouldn't it be both? Even the source you linked to ends up appealing to a moral argument about having enough compassion on the inbred to not bring them into the world. Although in the article, it's about having enough compassion to murder them in the womb...  =|
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 08:52:53 AM »
Pretty sure we ditched incest not because of relative morality, but because of science.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201210/the-problem-incest


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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2017, 01:31:44 PM »
You and your male dominated, cigendered science are poopy headed oppressors.
Science is racist, sexist, bigoted, xenophic, homophobic, and has no place in civilized progressive society.


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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2017, 02:46:14 PM »
Gemstone quality.

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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2017, 03:06:21 PM »

Not that I generally touch on it for political reasons, but honestly I believe the more recent instability in the Middle East can at least partly be explained by consanguineous marriages. In some Arab countries, it's over a third of all marriages. It can reach up to half in certain populations. One generation of first cousins isn't usually horrible. Too much? You get a very lengthy list of genetic disorders. It's at least starting to get acknowledged.

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Re: Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2017, 03:21:11 PM »
Not that I generally touch on it for political reasons, but honestly I believe the more recent instability in the Middle East can at least partly be explained by consanguineous marriages. In some Arab countries, it's over a third of all marriages. It can reach up to half in certain populations. One generation of first cousins isn't usually horrible. Too much? You get a very lengthy list of genetic disorders. It's at least starting to get acknowledged.
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 04:10:22 PM »
Not that I generally touch on it for political reasons, but honestly I believe the more recent instability in the Middle East can at least partly be explained by consanguineous marriages. In some Arab countries, it's over a third of all marriages. It can reach up to half in certain populations. One generation of first cousins isn't usually horrible. Too much? You get a very lengthy list of genetic disorders. It's at least starting to get acknowledged.



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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 09:28:57 AM »
I'm completely shocked by this. Shocked, shocked!


No, it's the other one. Nonplussed. Completely nonplussed by this. I recall that, on this very forum, I have pointed out that if marriage is not about the interests in the progeny that result (which is what gay marriage claims), then there is no logical reason that incest should be a disqualification for marriage/relationships.

And after mocking such an argument (because it was inconvenient at the time) the left is now pushing on to prove me correct. How predictable. I suppose it was this or pedophilia next on the way down. (Please, go ahead and mock that idea, too. 20 years ago, people would have laughed at the idea that our country would be sending a woman to jail for refusing to marry two gay people, but we've done that and more.)
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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 09:52:43 AM »
Not that I generally touch on it for political reasons, but honestly I believe the more recent instability in the Middle East can at least partly be explained by consanguineous marriages. In some Arab countries, it's over a third of all marriages. It can reach up to half in certain populations. One generation of first cousins isn't usually horrible. Too much? You get a very lengthy list of genetic disorders. It's at least starting to get acknowledged.



I had a classmate whose family was from Pakistan while in high school.  Sometime around senior year they took a trip back to the homeland.  He told us that while they were their his dad tried to get him to marry his cousin.... he refused, and told us she was a "little kid."   :O

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Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 06:50:33 PM »
I'm completely shocked by this. Shocked, shocked!


No, it's the other one. Nonplussed. Completely nonplussed by this.


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verb (used with object), nonplussed or nonplused, nonplussing or nonplusing.
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I have pointed out that if marriage is not about the interests in the progeny that result

I'm not sure I would make the claim that children are "what marriage is about," but the child-rearing issue is the only explanation for marriage being (99.9999%) heterosexual (or even existing at all) throughout human history.
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Re: Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 08:38:27 PM »

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I'm not sure I would make the claim that children are "what marriage is about," but the child-rearing issue is the only explanation for marriage being (99.9999%) heterosexual (or even existing at all) throughout human history.
Huh. I've had that definition backwards. Apparently I'm plussed.

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Re: Re: The next thing of which you must approve.
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2017, 11:37:26 PM »
Huh. I've had that definition backwards. Apparently I'm plussed.

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