Author Topic: The cray-cray, it be spreading  (Read 1111 times)

Hawkmoon

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The cray-cray, it be spreading
« on: April 19, 2018, 09:25:36 PM »
But, Yale is behind it, so we shouldn't be surprised.

http://www.wtnh.com/news/military/employers-urged-not-to-hold-discharge-status-against-vets/1130383614

Connecticut is now claiming (thanks to Yale?) that employers cannot hold bad conduct discharges against job applicants because (says Connecticut) the military handed out disproportionate numbers of bad conduct discharges to blacks, Latinos, and gays. So exactly how is an employer supposed to evaluate a veteran's service if he (the employer) isn't allowed to take into account the fact that the applicant was kicked out of the service with the worst possible type of discharge?

Applicant: "My First Sergeant, Platoon Leader, Company Commander and Brigade Commander d'in like me, so they made up a bunch of *expletive deleted*it and kicked me out."

Employer: "Okay, thanks for setting that straight. When would you like to start, and would you prefer a corner office, or one with a view of Central Park?"

I'd have to check but, if I remember correctly, jobs offering preference points for military service by law don't apply to discharges under less than honorable conditions.
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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 10:08:02 PM »
I wonder if this will have the same effect as the effort to keep employers from asking about criminal history of applicants. It's been found that, if employers can't make sure an applicant has no criminal history, they just do the math, and refuse to hire black men.  =|

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/consequences-of-ban-the-box/494435/
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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 10:49:12 PM »
I've wondered . . . if employers are not allowed to consider criminal records when hiring, does that mean the state approves of convicted felons working as gun shop salesmen, pharmacy clerks, bank tellers, child care workers, and in battered women's shelters?
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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 09:42:34 AM »
I've wondered . . . if employers are not allowed to consider criminal records when hiring, does that mean the state approves of convicted felons working as gun shop salesmen, pharmacy clerks, bank tellers, child care workers, and in battered women's shelters?
Of course they do.  Part of their belief system is that the cause of their evil ways is external not internal.  If they end up being wrong, it was someone else's fault.
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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 02:39:16 PM »
I wish freedom of association was not dead in the USA. A person does not have a right to force a private party to hire him / her.

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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 02:48:48 PM »
I wish freedom of association was not dead in the USA. A person does not have a right to force a private party to hire him / her.

Racist!
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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 02:53:35 PM »
Racist!

Yup, that's exactly the first thing that is said. 

You don't want to legalize discrimination, do you?

I want people to have the right to use their own money to hire exactly who they want and offer them exactly what they are willing to pay... and anything else is a violation of individual rights.  And bigoted people have every right to be bigoted in their hiring decisions with their own money.

Goldwater was 100% right on the issue.

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Re: The cray-cray, it be spreading
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 02:56:48 PM »
"But what if businesses start discriminating against black people?!"

"Um, Starbucks, moron."

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