Author Topic: Double-barreled revolver (Read 813 times)

Perd Hapley · « **on:** May 09, 2019, 05:17:29 PM »

So I guess this was at the Shot Show, but I don't recall hearing about it.

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/shooting/pistols/standard-manufacturing-s333-volleyfire-thunderstruck-revolver/

Looks like the bump stock of handguns. Does anyone know why the trigger is so queer? Is there some kind of legal work-around going on there? Is it maybe a 2-piece trigger, so that it's technically two triggers?

Fly320s · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »

Maybe it is a very heavy trigger pull and you'll need two fingers to pull it.

Or

I thought that any trigger that fired more than one shot per pull is considered a machine gun. Maybe that funky trigger is a way around the NFA.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2019, 06:27:12 PM »

Hank Strange had the Standard Manufacturing guy on his Lifestyles of the Locked and Loaded youtube show a while back. If I remember correctly, it was considered a concealed carry pocket gun. Most defensive shootings are less than 4 shots so it shoots 4 times with two 22 mag bullets each shot which also have very low recoil. I think the trigger was supposed to help people with little grip strength, but I can't remember what he said. In general, as a pocket defense gun, it has the advantages of a hammerless revolver and puts two holes in the target with each shot.

I think I would prefer something like 327 Mag, but it is interesting.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2019, 07:53:12 AM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on May 09, 2019, 06:27:12 PM

Hank Strange had the Standard Manufacturing guy on his Lifestyles of the Locked and Loaded youtube show a while back. If I remember correctly, it was considered a concealed carry pocket gun. Most defensive shootings are less than 4 shots so it shoots 4 times with two 22 mag bullets each shot which also have very low recoil. I think the trigger was supposed to help people with little grip strength, but I can't remember what he said. In general, as a pocket defense gun, it has the advantages of a hammerless revolver and puts two holes in the target with each shot.

I think I would prefer something like 327 Mag, but it is interesting.

327 mag, .38 special, even .380 with moon clips seems like a better solution than two 22 mag bullets.

MillCreek · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2019, 09:39:57 AM »

What I would like to see is a modern version of the COP .357 derringer from decades past. I have seen and handled, but not fired, one of the original models. It was heavy and if I recall correctly, had some reliability issues, but it enjoyed some brief popularity as a deep cover back up in law enforcement.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2019, 11:38:32 AM »

I never saw the point of derringers in today's market unless you just like the looks. The 5 shot light weight 38/357 revolvers are nearly as small and have 5 shots. 357 out of a lightweight revolver is not fun to shoot.

I can certainly see this double barrel revolver fitting a niche for self defense carry with a jacket or coat. I believe Standard Manufacturing is up in the Northeast so that fits. For Texas summers, Keltec P32 works better for a pocket gun that is small and easy to conceal.

HeroHog · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2019, 01:01:59 PM »

Remember Skidmark's .45 ACP derringer?

MillCreek · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2019, 02:04:41 PM »

I still have an American Derringer .38 DA derringer. I bought it new in the 80's. It fits nicely into an inside chest pocket of a suit jacket. I use a pocket holster since the semi-exposed trigger gives me the heebie-jeebies otherwise. Loaded with the Hornady Critical Defense 90 grain JHP, the recoil is not too bad. I used to use standard pressure Nyclad, but I ran out of those.

K Frame · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2019, 02:04:46 PM »

"Does anyone know why the trigger is so queer?"

Don't question its life choices.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2019, 02:23:58 PM »

Speaking of double barrels:
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/03/robert-farago/gilboa-snake-double-barrel-ar-15-finally-for-sale/

A gun shop near me has one of the Gilboa double barrel AR's. Looks really cool, but it is about 11 lbs. Each side fires independently with separate triggers. They priced it at $3000 so not an impulse buy.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2019, 05:13:02 PM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on May 10, 2019, 02:04:46 PM

"Does anyone know why the trigger is so queer?"

Don't question its life choices.

Oh, so you think this gun chooses to be queer? You monster!

Pb · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2019, 01:10:24 PM »

The lack of a complete trigger guard appears to be a terrible idea, esp for a "pocket gun." That huge trigger looks like it is begging to get hung up on something.

230RN · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2019, 10:56:28 PM »

Quote from: Fly320s on May 09, 2019, 06:04:02 PM

Maybe it is a very heavy trigger pull and you'll need two fingers to pull it.

Or

I thought that any trigger that fired more than one shot per pull is considered a machine gun. Maybe that funky trigger is a way around the NFA.

That's the first thing I thought of... and even if there are two independent triggers side by side, if the BATF can class bump stocks and shoelaces as machineguns (although I thought they backtracked on the latter), this thing sure has the look and smell of a machinegun. I'd sure like to see what the BATF letter on that said.

And I quote their "Features:"

Quote

The S333 Volleyfire Thunderstruck has the interesting distinction of firing two shots per pull.

Go figure.

K Frame · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2019, 10:10:44 AM »

Quote from: fistful on May 10, 2019, 05:13:02 PM

You monster!

Well Duh!

brimic · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2019, 04:18:23 PM »

This thing looks like so many levels of unnecessary fail.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2019, 05:16:17 PM »

Quote from: Fly320s on May 09, 2019, 06:04:02 PM

I thought that any trigger that fired more than one shot per pull is considered a machine gun. Maybe that funky trigger is a way around the NFA.

That's what that guy said in the OP.

230RN · « **Reply #16 on:** May 14, 2019, 10:24:07 AM »

Quote

Quote from: Fly320s on May 09, 2019, 04:04:02 PM

I thought that any trigger that fired more than one shot per pull is considered a machine gun. Maybe that funky trigger is a way around the NFA.

Quote from: fistful on May 13, 2019, 05:16:17 PM

That's what that guy said in the OP.

Yes, but I'd still like to see the rationale and understand the mechanism which lets them slip through the "one pull, one shot" gateway.

Especially since they advertise "The S333 Volleyfire Thunderstruck has the interesting distinction of firing two shots per pull" and the BATF has apparently hardened its attitude on what constitutes a "trigger pull." (I'm referring here to their recent position on bump stocks, of course.)

It seems to me that even "fanning" a revolver technically makes the revolver a machinegun. No? Yes?

Terry

brimic · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2019, 10:40:30 AM »

Quote from: 230RN on May 14, 2019, 10:24:07 AM

It seems to me that even "fanning" a revolver technically makes the revolver a machinegun. No? Yes?

Terry

By that standard, Winchester 97 shotguns would be machineguns...

MechAg94 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2019, 10:43:56 AM »

Quote from: 230RN on May 14, 2019, 10:24:07 AM

It seems to me that even "fanning" a revolver technically makes the revolver a machinegun. No? Yes?

Terry

I would think that would still require one action of the shooter per shot even it is isn't the trigger pull.

230RN · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2019, 12:42:02 PM »

Eastwood fanning.

https://youtu.be/KZ_7br_3y54?start=133&?end=153

Doggy Daddy · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2019, 11:24:17 PM »

Quote from: 230RN on May 14, 2019, 12:42:02 PM

Eastwood fanning.

https://youtu.be/KZ_7br_3y54?start=133&?end=153

Dakota Fanning

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2019, 12:52:01 AM »

Barbara Streisand fanning:

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Author Topic: Double-barreled revolver (Read 813 times)