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Omar and Americans
« on: June 29, 2019, 09:16:58 AM »
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"We had an opportunity to put forth a humanitarian policy and we wasted that opportunity, and it's quite sad. And I hope that Americans are as appalled as I am"

The bolded in the above quote is something that I noticed about Omar. She uses similar phrasing a lot. I never hear her say, "other Americans", "all Americans", "fellow Americans". She always seems to use phrasing that separates her from Americans. "I feel this way, and you Americans should too."  ;/

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/06/29/paging-brian-stelter-we-have-another-awful-cnn-headline-for-you-to-police-is-this-accurate/
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2019, 10:01:39 AM »
She doesn’t like the way the American nation has been running the US Empire.

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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2019, 10:02:31 AM »
The bolded in the above quote is something that I noticed about Omar. She uses similar phrasing a lot. I never hear her say, "other Americans", "all Americans", "fellow Americans". She always seems to use phrasing that separates her from Americans. "I feel this way, and you Americans should too."  ;/

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/06/29/paging-brian-stelter-we-have-another-awful-cnn-headline-for-you-to-police-is-this-accurate/

That's because, as I think you meant to imply, that despite her naturalization she does not regard herself as an American, she regards herself as a Somali living in America. Which is why she had no problem with the whole dual marriages shuffle -- to her, American law only applies when it works to her advantage.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2019, 10:25:30 AM »
That's because, as I think you meant to imply, that despite her naturalization she does not regard herself as an American, she regards herself as a Somali living in America.

Yup. Which, sadly, seems to apply to around 80% of current immigrants. It's a far cry from the immigrant household in which I grew up. Or even the Romanian lady that owns the German store where I buy my wurst. I'm not sure I've been in there yet where she hasn't worked "God Bless America" into the conversation. :)
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2019, 03:04:52 PM »
Yup. Which, sadly, seems to apply to around 80% of current immigrants. It's a far cry from the immigrant household in which I grew up. Or even the Romanian lady that owns the German store where I buy my wurst. I'm not sure I've been in there yet where she hasn't worked "God Bless America" into the conversation. :)

Isn't usually the second generation that embraces being an American?
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2019, 03:14:15 PM »
Isn't usually the second generation that embraces being an American?

Not in my experience. With European immigrants, assimilation starts with the first generation (often fervently) and maybe calms down a bit with following generations. With Mexicans, in CA at least where most of my experience is, even if the first generation assimilates, you can about bet that their kids will be America haters and into La Raza.

I haven't figured out Idaho yet. There's a significant Hispanic community in my neck of the woods for the farm work, but I haven't seen any of that La Raza crap and flying Mexican flags everywhere like in CA. There is a greater than I would like portion of people that speak Mexican at the local Costco, but not as bad as CA.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2019, 04:41:46 PM »
Not in my experience. With European immigrants, assimilation starts with the first generation (often fervently) and maybe calms down a bit with following generations. With Mexicans, in CA at least where most of my experience is, even if the first generation assimilates, you can about bet that their kids will be America haters and into La Raza.

I haven't figured out Idaho yet. There's a significant Hispanic community in my neck of the woods for the farm work, but I haven't seen any of that La Raza crap and flying Mexican flags everywhere like in CA. There is a greater than I would like portion of people that speak Mexican at the local Costco, but not as bad as CA.

We have a decent sized Hispanic population in Iowa, for the most part they act like Americans. Hmongs same way.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2019, 06:56:43 PM »
Isn't usually the second generation that embraces being an American?

Not necessarily, but let's run with that. Suppose Ms. Omar were to have children. Do you seriously believe that she would raise them to love the United States, and to respect our flag, our Constitution, and our laws?
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2019, 06:59:34 PM »
We have a decent sized Hispanic population in Iowa, for the most part they act like Americans. Hmongs same way.

We have an INdecently-large population of Hispanics around here (many of them illegal). They act, for the most part, like thugs and gangstas. A very large percentage of them are from Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2019, 07:00:46 PM »
We have an INdecently-large population of Hispanics around here (many of them illegal). They act, for the most part, like thugs and gangstas. A very large percentage of them are from Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic.

You get many illegal Puerto Ricans?

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2019, 07:26:04 PM »
You get many illegal Puerto Ricans?

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2019, 09:28:41 PM »
You get many illegal Puerto Ricans?

Mostly Ecuadorians. Some Mexicans. ICE could clean house around here if they'd just check the kitchens of every McDonalds and diner.

Who ever heard of a country setting up a consulate in a city with a population of 130,000 people? Well, we have an Ecuadorian consulate. That right there tells you something.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2019, 12:06:40 AM »
Not necessarily, but let's run with that. Suppose Ms. Omar were to have children. Do you seriously believe that she would raise them to love the United States, and to respect our flag, our Constitution, and our laws?

Prison will take care of that.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2019, 12:18:59 PM »
Seems like a lot of you live in the crappier parts of America. I live in a very agricultural area that needs a lot of cheap labor and I don't see the problems you all seem to be experiencing. I work in Ag so I see low income workers almost daily.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2019, 12:41:29 PM »
Seems like a lot of you live in the crappier parts of America. I live in a very agricultural area that needs a lot of cheap labor and I don't see the problems you all seem to be experiencing. I work in Ag so I see low income workers almost daily.

I live like 10 miles from some of the biggest strawberry fields in FL.  We get a TON of migrant labor through this area, and I'm sure a lot of it is illegal.  For that matter, I'm not 100% convinced my maids are legal, but that's an issue for the company that hired them.  We don't get very many issues from it.  un/under insured motorist coverage is a little high around here (but the meth contingent doesn't help there), a couple of the high schools have bilingual signs, but that's about it.

I spent the last several years going to Ventura County, CA several times a year though, and saw all of what Ben has described there.  Trash on the side of the road, shitty ghetto areas with Spanish graffiti, obvious Latin gangs on the streets, the whole bit.

I wonder if the illegal population isn't large enough that it gets the same regional shifts in attitude the rest of us do?

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2019, 01:11:07 PM »
I spent the last several years going to Ventura County, CA several times a year though, and saw all of what Ben has described there.  Trash on the side of the road, shitty ghetto areas with Spanish graffiti, obvious Latin gangs on the streets, the whole bit.

And that was just on base.  =D

I think you spent your time at Hueneme and not Mugu? The Hueneme area is probably one of the worst areas in VC for all you described above, so you were certainly in the thick of it.

I agree on the "regionalization" (because I think we have a much, much larger illegal population than any of the official numbers state). When I talk about "speaking Mexican in the Costco", I should elaborate that I see two different kinds of speaking Spanish. Here, it's just people speaking Spanish with each other*. In CA, it felt to me like it was people speaking "entitled Spanish". "I'll speak Spanish, I'll make sure you notice, and oh  yeah - in your face, because we're in charge around here!"

* Which I don't mind much, though when I was growing up, it was considered to be extremely rude by all the immigrants my family hung out with to speak German out in public. Sure, it was fine when meeting with other German families at the park for a BBQ or whatever, but in a store or the bank or what have you while interacting with people that don't speak German? Speak English.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2019, 01:55:25 PM »
^^^ One of my pet peeves. I'm sure I have mentioned previously that one of the biggest McDonald's franchisees in this state is Hispanic, and most of the help in all the McDonald's around my county somehow happen to be Hispanic -- even the Mickey D's in towns that don't have much (if any) Hispanic population. The McD's closest to me is 3 miles away, in the adjacent town. Several years ago, the two children of a friend who lives in that town both applied for jobs at that McD's. Neither was hired -- instead, the slots were filled by Hispanics who commute by train from a larger city 20 miles away.

Most of the Hispanic crew speak little or no English. Even the ones they put on the registers are often barely able to handle taking an order. I suspect this was a major factor in McD's installing the self-order kiosks in their stores -- less confusion over the crew's inability to understand what an Anglo customer is ordering.
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2019, 11:06:35 AM »

Most of the Hispanic crew speak little or no English. Even the ones they put on the registers are often barely able to handle taking an order. I suspect this was a major factor in McD's installing the self-order kiosks in their stores -- less confusion over the crew's inability to understand what an Anglo customer is ordering.

Not even close...$15/hour prompted the kiosks.  They're in every McD's around here..
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2019, 11:46:08 AM »
I’m shocked, shocked I say!

Who would have thought that a distinct people would take care of their own and favor their tribe!

American whites are the only dupes who express so little loyalty to their own people that they even consider that lack of loyalty a virtue.

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2019, 12:28:55 PM »
She doesn’t like the way the American nation has been running the US Empire.



That's because we've resisted becoming a caliphate.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2019, 12:33:21 PM »
That's because we've resisted becoming a caliphate.

Give it time.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2019, 01:01:53 PM »
Pretty sure Trump started planning on becoming President a long time ago.

Decades long plans are hard to implement in a country with the squirrel like attention of the population and their bi-polar voting habits.

That’s why we have off the book intelligence agencies and permanent bureaucracies running things.

One of the intelligence agencies must be in cahoots with Trump. I can’t see how he became President without behind the scenes protection and intelligence.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2019, 01:49:14 PM »
Give it time.
American's biggest weakness is that we're always playing the short game while they, including China, play the long game. We think in 4 year terms, they think in 100-200, or more, year terms.

Recent developments in China belie that belief.

Their ruling elite are just as short-sighted as ours.

E.g.: https://www.businessinsider.com/these-chinese-cities-are-ghost-towns-2017-4
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Re: Omar and Americans
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2019, 09:01:47 PM »
This has nothing to do with immigration or border-jumping. Omar is just being honest. She knows she's not an American. She's a Leftist.
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