« previous next »
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: Clemency for Blagojevich?  (Read 1598 times)

K Frame

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 44,767
  • I Am Inimical
Clemency for Blagojevich?
« on: February 18, 2020, 01:40:49 PM »
OK, question....

Clemency is different from a pardon, correct? I think a pardon is an exoneration, while clemency is OK, you served time, that's enough, correct?

That said, I do NOT agree with granting Blagojevich clemency, just as I did not agree with Obama granting (insert gender appropriate name here) Manning (be damned if I can remember either first name) clemency.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/18/trump-expected-to-grant-clemency-to-rod-blagojevich-bernard-kerik.html
Report to moderator   Logged
Carbon Monoxide, sucking the life out of idiots, 'tards, and fools since man tamed fire.

just Warren

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,234
  • My DJ name is Heavy Cream.
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2020, 01:53:01 PM »
Eh.

While I'm no fan of Blago's generally I always thought that he pissed off Obama somehow and that's what led to the arrest and incredibly long sentence he got.

Fourteen years for what is pretty much mundane corruption? Given how corrupt they were it's difficult to imagine anyone n the Obama administration being that much a stickler for the law.

And wasn't Kerik at least partially railroaded? I don't recall clearly but I seem to remember that there were issues with his case. And we know that federal prosecutors are not above lying and cheating their way to victory, especially when a big scalp is the prize.
Report to moderator   Logged
Member in Good Standing of the Spontaneous Order of the Invisible Hand.

DittoHead

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,574
  • Writing for the Bulwark since August 2019
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2020, 02:13:15 PM »
Man, I still remember when Blagojevich was going to turn and bring down Obama.  Or Rezko before that.
 :old:
If it was up to me, he'd serve his entire sentence.
Report to moderator   Logged
In the moral, catatonic stupor America finds itself in today it is only disagreement we seek, and the more virulent that disagreement, the better.

Ben

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,445
  • I'm an Extremist!
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2020, 03:06:07 PM »
Well, it appears Trump granted the clemency. I do not remember the whole Blago thing anymore, other than at the time, I recall myself thinking he got what he deserved. IIRC, he was an arrogant ass, so I'm not a fan of him walking early.
Report to moderator   Logged
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

Ron

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 10,882
  • Like a tree planted by the rivers of water
    • What I believe ...
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2020, 09:43:32 PM »
That tells me he probably flipped.

He better watch his back.

If he didn't flip, nobody will believe him.


Report to moderator   Logged
For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity, that they may be without excuse. Because knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, and didn’t give thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

Andiron

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,930
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2020, 09:54:25 PM »
Quote from: Ron on February 18, 2020, 09:43:32 PM
That tells me he probably flipped.

He better watch his back.

If he didn't flip, nobody will believe him.




Hope you're right,  otherwise why turn that POS loose?

8 years is probably enough, but he was sentenced to 14,  and that's only what they actually caught him for.  I really doubt it was his first (or only) offense.
Report to moderator   Logged
"Leftism destroys everything good." -  Ron

There is no fixing stupid. But, you can line it up in front of a wall and offer it a last smoke.

There is no such thing as a "transgender" person.  Only mental illness that should be discouraged.

brimic

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,270
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2020, 08:44:44 AM »
Quote from: DittoHead on February 18, 2020, 02:13:15 PM

If it was up to me, he'd serve his entire sentence.

That.
I don't see the upside for anyone, except Blago, for his early release.
Report to moderator   Logged
"now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet

"AK47's belong in the hands of soldiers mexican drug cartels"-
Barack Obama

Ben

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,445
  • I'm an Extremist!
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2020, 08:48:02 AM »
Not that it has anything to do with justice or not and is more optics, but  I was unaware Blogo was on Trump's TV show. Seems he could have picked a more deserving individual (and I know there are LOTS who are serving outrageous sentences they don't deserve) that didn't come back to hit him as "buddy deal" with the MSM.
Report to moderator   Logged
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

Jamisjockey

  • Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 26,580
  • Your mom sends me care packages
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2020, 08:48:39 AM »
Quote from: brimic on February 19, 2020, 08:44:44 AM
That.
I don't see the upside for anyone, except Blago, for his early release.

There's always the possibility he has some kind of dirt on someone and finally cave.

Otherwise, the simplest answer is that they're all buddy buddy, and Trump felt sorry for his old friend.  The dude was on the Apprentice after all.
Report to moderator   Logged
JD

 The price of a lottery ticket seems to be the maximum most folks are willing to risk toward the dream of becoming a one-percenter. “Robert Hollis”

Northwoods

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,418
  • Formerly sumpnz
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2020, 09:59:14 AM »
So did Blago get a pardon or clemency?
Report to moderator   Logged
Formerly sumpnz

K Frame

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 44,767
  • I Am Inimical
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2020, 10:21:57 AM »
Clemency, it looks like.

Report to moderator   Logged
Carbon Monoxide, sucking the life out of idiots, 'tards, and fools since man tamed fire.

gunsmith

  • I forgot to get vaccinated!
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,187
  • I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2020, 09:08:46 PM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 18, 2020, 01:40:49 PM

That said, I do NOT agree with granting Blagojevich clemency, just as I did not agree with Obama granting (insert gender appropriate name here) Manning (be damned if I can remember either first name) clemency.

Peyton Manning?
Report to moderator   Logged
Quote from: RevDisk on April 06, 2012, 10:15:08 AM
Politicians and bureaucrats are considered productive if they swarm the populace like a plague of locust, devouring all substance in their path and leaving a swath of destruction like a firestorm. The technical term is "bipartisanship".
Rocket Man: "The need for booster shots for the immunized has always been based on the science.  Political science, not medical science."

zxcvbob

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,296
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2020, 09:12:37 PM »
Quote from: gunsmith on February 19, 2020, 09:08:46 PM
Peyton Manning?

I think it's Bradley, a.k.a. Chelsea.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2020, 08:45:57 AM by zxcvbob »
Report to moderator   Logged
"It's good, though..."

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,340
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2020, 05:19:49 AM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on February 19, 2020, 09:12:37 PM
I think it's Bradley, a.k.a. Chesea.

You may have misspelled "sleezy".
Report to moderator   Logged
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

zxcvbob

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,296
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2020, 08:46:56 AM »
Quote from: Doggy Daddy on February 20, 2020, 05:19:49 AM
You may have misspelled "sleezy".


You're right.  Thanks.
Report to moderator   Logged
"It's good, though..."

RoadKingLarry

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,841
Re: Clemency for Blagojevich?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2020, 10:02:34 AM »
Quote from: Doggy Daddy on February 20, 2020, 05:19:49 AM
You may have misspelled "sleezy".


And here all along I thought the correct spelling was "Shitbag".
Report to moderator   Logged
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams
Pages: [1]
« previous next »