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Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« on: November 08, 2023, 09:36:34 AM »
I think we've talked about this guy here before. Mr Beast is a big time youtuber who also happens to use a ton of his youtube profits to do good deeds. Everytime he does a good deed, he is attacked by the left. It's almost inexplicable, because it's not just the fringe left, but also left mainstream.

In this case, he drilled 100 water wells in Africa. Among others, the Kenyan government is mad at him for "making them look bad". The attacks on this guy are just bizarre to me.

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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2023, 09:45:13 AM »

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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2023, 10:39:32 AM »
The Kenyan government has been known for corruption since old Jomo Kenyatta and his extended family were using the national airline to smuggle poached ivory out of the country. (By the way, Kenya's 1977 total hunting ban was to get the legitimate safari companies out of the wild, as their presence was interfering with the poachers who were kicking back a lot of their illicit profits to government officials.)
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2023, 10:42:49 AM »
The Kenyan government has been known for corruption since old Jomo Kenyatta and his extended family were using the national airline to smuggle poached ivory out of the country. (By the way, Kenya's 1977 total hunting ban was to get the legitimate safari companies out of the wild, as their presence was interfering with the poachers who were kicking back a lot of their illicit profits to government officials.)

And jack the price up, way up.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2023, 11:16:46 AM »
Our government are high holy saints compared to some of the African nations. Just keep that in prospective.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2023, 11:32:54 AM »
Our government are high holy saints compared to some of the African nations. Just keep that in prospective.

Like comparing breaking one leg to breaking both. Still a broken leg.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2023, 12:08:55 PM »
Our government are high holy saints compared to some of the African nations. Just keep that in prospective.
I also remember that my federal govt doesn't provide me with clean drinking water.  That is organized by the city, county, state govts.  The drive to set up clean water supply here did not start with the Feds.  It started with locals organizing their own water supply. 
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2023, 12:12:21 PM »
My government doesn't provide me drinking water at all.  I can tell you from experience that if my well pump goes out, or it tests positive for germs the only governmental interest is telling me if I don't get it fixed right away they will make me move out of my house or fine me.

There is no help in getting that water fixed.

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2023, 12:20:44 PM »
I live in town and on municipal water. Also, in Iowa we have a lot of rural water that is piped to rural residences.

Yes, the feds have provided some part of drinking water to at least me because of where I live.

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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2023, 12:29:40 PM »
My government doesn't provide me drinking water at all.  I can tell you from experience that if my well pump goes out, or it tests positive for germs the only governmental interest is telling me if I don't get it fixed right away they will make me move out of my house or fine me.

There is no help in getting that water fixed.

Yup. That's the case even in supposedly free Idaho, and I think the wait on well permits (and drillers) right now is like six months. They may have some "hardship permits" that get you through the gov.wait quicker, but you still gotta find a driller.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2023, 01:27:44 PM »
I live in town and on municipal water. Also, in Iowa we have a lot of rural water that is piped to rural residences.

Yes, the feds have provided some part of drinking water to at least me because of where I live.

https://www.epa.gov/waterfinancecenter/effective-funding-frameworks-water-infrastructure#:~:text=Other%20Funding%20Sources-,Federal%20Funding%20Sources,%2C%20wastewater%2C%20and%20stormwater%20infrastructure.

Sure, it depends a lot on where you live.  I was just responding to Mechag to add the perspective that in a lot of places in the US, no .gov at any level provides you water.

And I'm not all that far out of town, either. 15 min driving get's me into Tampa city limits.


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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2023, 01:58:31 PM »
Sure, it depends a lot on where you live.  I was just responding to Mechag to add the perspective that in a lot of places in the US, no .gov at any level provides you water.

And I'm not all that far out of town, either. 15 min driving get's me into Tampa city limits.

Yep, even some of the incorporated parts of my town on the edges are on a private well and private septic. No many but there is a few holdouts that are grandfathered in.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2023, 02:35:58 PM »
I also remember that my federal govt doesn't provide me with clean drinking water.  That is organized by the city, county, state govts.  The drive to set up clean water supply here did not start with the Feds.  It started with locals organizing their own water supply.

It does in Arizona.  I feel a little dizzy and discombobulated while saying it, being the cranky libertarian anarchist here, but all the water in the Phoenix metro area is a function of the Colorado River Compact and/or the Salt River Project.  SRP is a locally organized utility cooperative, but it relied upon the Federal Bureau of Reclamation for two dams, the biggest of which is Roosevelt Dam.  Most of Phoenix's water comes from the Colorado River Project and a giant diversion canal that runs from Parker on the AZ/CA border all the way to Phoenix (190 miles).  The Salt River is far smaller than the Colorado, and drains into the Colorado anyways, near Yuma, as the Gila River at that point.  The Salt's reservoirs along its way are miniscule compared to Havasu, Mead, Mojave and the other enormous reservoirs on the Colorado.

One might draw a distinction between just "water" and "clean drinking water" if they wanted to quibble.  Technically I pay the City of Mesa for water services.  They sanitize it.  but it certainly isn't sourced from anywhere in reach of the City of Mesa.

Wow.  I just defended government.  I must be feeling a bit off.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2023, 03:18:49 PM »
In most cases the Feds just came in and regulated or added to what was already there.  In a few cases like the Colorado River, the govt came in an built infrastructure.  I would say that is the exception, but those projects allowed areas of the country to be more populated than they previously were. 

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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2023, 11:55:59 AM »

he drilled 100 water wells in Africa. Among others, the Kenyan government is mad at him for "making them look bad". The attacks on this guy are just bizarre to me.


That's great and all, but is there some reason why the Kenyans can't drill their own wells?
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2023, 12:08:47 PM »
That's great and all, but is there some reason why the Kenyans can't drill their own wells?

Maybe they couldn't afford the bribe for the permits?
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2023, 12:25:35 PM »
Maybe they couldn't afford the bribe for the permits?

Trade them some poached ivory.
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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2023, 09:00:27 PM »
That's great and all, but is there some reason why the Kenyans can't drill their own wells?

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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2023, 09:44:15 PM »
Apparently, a lot of wells are not maintained, and then fail.

https://www.iied.org/africas-water-crisis-quarter-billion-dollars-down-drain

That seems to go along with Preacherman's discussion of charity projects in Africa receiving no maintaince by the locals.  The article seems to point the finger at the charities, for some reason.

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Re: Mr Beast and the Evil Water Wells
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2023, 10:30:33 PM »
In most cases the Feds just came in and regulated or added to what was already there.  In a few cases like the Colorado River, the govt came in an built infrastructure.  I would say that is the exception, but those projects allowed areas of the country to be more populated than they previously were.

Yes, but the question is: SHOULD those areas of the country have been populated?

We now have situations in which water is being taken out of rivers and sent across state lines to cities far away from the river's natural watershed, depriving people and places downstream along the river itself of water that, in a sane world, they should have first rights to.
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