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James Fitzer

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I'm messing around with Logic, and due to my location (Iraq) I haven't been using a live drummer.

I've made some impressive things with toontrack's EZDrummer, the sounds themselves are great. I found out by accident that it can run off MIDI data from other sources, which got me thinking.

Remember fruityloops? Where you had patterns that you could make, and save the patterns, then arrange them in a timeline? Well, I need some kind of method for doing that on logic express (Pro has one) but i'd like it to be free.

The plan is, I arrange beats, mute the output, and send the midi out to EZDrummer so i can take advantage of the amazing sounds that are in that program.

Does fruity loops use reWire? I could download it. but i'd prefer to have a fruity-loops style step drum sequencer in AU or VST form that i can use, and pipe the MIDI output to EZDrummer.

Gonna register for the logic forums, but i thought i'd try here first, since i'm among friends ;-)

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 11:23:52 AM »
Well, I think your blickenator is fargled and you need a doopdanger with a double digit sine loop indicator.  That should do the trick.

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2007, 11:27:47 AM »
dammit... :-)


Well, hopefully someone else on this board is into this stuff. If not, then we can all continue to happily make fun of me :-D



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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2007, 11:31:46 AM »

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If not, then we can all continue to happily make fun of me :-D

Like there was any question about that on this board...  grin

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2007, 11:34:00 AM »
dammit... :-)


Well, hopefully someone else on this board is into this stuff. If not, then we can all continue to happily make fun of me :-D

I am, but I've only used Garageband, Steinberg CuBase and Sony ACID.  smiley

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 11:34:34 AM »
http://www.myspace.com/nickmars

the default song on that page is something i created without any live drums. No vocals yet though



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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 02:15:24 PM »
Just read the "13 Step Program for Recovering Military" essay.

Seeing a lot of bitterness and resentment there.  Tell me again why you joined?   undecided
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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 02:23:49 PM »
I teach a recording class but we don't get into those programs.  It's all I can do to get them to learn how to plug their whatzit into the thingy.... cheesy

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 03:07:39 PM »
It's not an essay, it's a joke that i found on another site.

Bitter? Me? never.


But i'll let you know if i feel like justifying my reasons for joining anytime soon. I got out in 2003, by the way, so that might enlighten you somewhat

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 07:29:53 PM »
So you're a contractor over there now, vs. a grunt? (Didn't catch the discharge on the website) Having just retired from the military after 20 years, I'm sort of "thick" in the head, myself.  Wink

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2007, 03:07:48 AM »
on the mac side,
Garageband has some looping chops
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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2007, 04:07:43 AM »
no, not a contractor... recalled to active duty

got out in 2003, recalled in 05, been back ever since.


And, regarding your comment in the other thread, I'm not insubordinate, my NCOERs are stellar, and I certainly havent had a problem completing our mission. Actually, I'd like to know why you're giving me a hard time, in this thread and the other, or is that just me misreading the situation?

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2007, 06:29:46 AM »
I'm not giving you a hard time. 

I am, however, relating my own experience after 20 years' military service, which sounds like night and day compared to your experiences.  A few years back, I got wind that a few younger troops were telling their buddies that I didn't know what I was doing.  I called an off-site office meeting, then took them to the unit historian's office and showed them the pictures and documents of my early days where I was in their same situation, along with other members of their chain of command.  Then I reminded them as Chief of Stan/Eval that if there was a problem, I was more than happy to listen.  The usual thing, they had to be part of the solution vs. part of the problem if they wanted to see things fixed. I reserved the right to make the final call on whatever ideas they came up with, because it was me who was responsible to prevent a 250,000 pound aluminum, organic, and kerosene projectile from becoming a smoking hole in the ground vs. returning to home 'drome. No takers, but the whining stopped. I took the opportunity to remind them that if they stayed with the program, they would progress to upper management themselves over time. 

As a young pup, my boss made me attend a Courts Martial.  I did the same for all our new recruits into the program, with the blessing of our Director of Operations and unit commander.  That gave the recruits a really good view of how the UCMJ worked, and where discipline and good order had a very real face.

Maybe I took offense at that "13 Steps" essay, and I've also been in potential international incidents where a crewmember got a case of ass and decided he'd rat us out to the country we were flying near vs. remain a classified reconnaissance troop.  We almost tossed him out the aft emergency escape hatch.  He damned near blew the whole unit wide apart, and was immediately DNIF'ed and reassigned, barred from promotion, and separated a couple years shy of his retirement eligibility date.  The ironic thing was that he wound up in Folsom a year later under 42 counts of child pornography and solicitation. 

So yeah, I'm a firm believer in the UCMJ and keeping order and discipline in a military unit. We were a very tightly-knit organization, and depended on each other to get the mission done and back home in one piece.  I'll even go so far as to state that if somebody writes a blog bad-mouthing his chain of command, at best I'd have a hard time trusting that individual's dedication to the mission, especially when he decided to gain mileage from publishing his dissent vs. using the means available at h and to fix the problems.  (Hell, even I had an "open door" policy)   Granted, there are always FUBARs in the DoD (where aren't they?) nor was I the best recruiter for the military, and my time in the Green Zone essentially sucked, but I didn't whine on a blog, and left my post on good terms, with the unit commander calling it a "class act" at the retirement ceremony. 


 
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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2007, 11:11:07 AM »
I'm sorry if the post offended you. It was meant as a joke, and nothing else.

As for good order and discipline, I agree with you. And to me it sounds like you were the kind of officer who put the mission over frivolities, which does not always happen in my brigade, hence the source of my disappointment.

Nowhere in the blog to I advocate disobedience or disrespect, and I've taken care to point out the many positive things I've seen here in Iraq. example:

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First: vehicles and equipment. I won't go into specifics, but the situation is much better. I have a nice truck, with working commo, and the neato headsets so i can talk to my gunner without screaming. We have plenty of supplies, weapons, etc. The trucks are well maintained, and getting in for service when they need to. Kudos, Red Bulls. Don't get used to it ;-)

Second, living conditions: Improvements there as well. There was one outpost where guys were living in a crappy tent, they now have a trailer. Other areas have been upgraded as well, kitchens and what not. And the food getting shipped to us has had a decent amount of variety, and we recieve gatorades and whatnot regularly. Again... very nice.

 Reorganization: Once again, no specifics, but I think so far the way everything's been restructured has been a good thing. There was a problem with certain groups making things difficult, and they've been broken up.

EDITED TO ADD: Geez guys, why does everyone assume I'm talking about them. There were cliques, and if you've emailed me so far, it wasn't you i was talking about.

Mission overall: what can i say... it's rough over here, and it's not a paradise.... but an american outpost i was at recently got turned over to iraqis. A sign that things are moving in the right direction.

My spirits have been high, and I havent had time to post about it because school is also going well. I hope to see this trend continue, it seems certain people finally are pulling their heads out of their asses.

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Hardly detrimental to good order and discipline.

I apologize if I'm not the "everything the leadership of america and the army do is great" kinda guy... maybe that comes from being forced back into active duty two and a half years after my ETS into a brigade that has given us no support at all, whether on personnel actions, pay problems, or benefits such as education. Maybe it's the fact that there are people on this post whose only job is to come up with and enforce inane rules, all the while allowing their soldiers to get away with the really bad offenses. Or perhaps its the lack of mission focus, spending valuable time on retarded manditory briefings that we've had zillions of times instead of facilitating real, solid training.

Anyways, this thread has drifted far enough. If you'd like to continue this discussion, we can do it in PM or another thread

EDITED TO ADD: That post is from the military-only blog that i have on another site. The myspace blog is more of a personal type thing, and only has the occasional military post.

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Re: digital audio gurus, help me out please (multitrack recording)
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2007, 12:25:00 PM »
No problem, TheFitzVH, and I somewhat commiserate with you.  I remember when I was grumbling about how management did things, until I got there myself and had a larger view of the Big Picture.   Then I just grumbled about the folks at Air Staff and others in DC.  grin
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