Which is why they are currently drilling up a storm in ANWAR, and the gulf is so full of offshore rigs one could walk from Key West to Galveston without getting his feet wet. If these mystical corporations were having such a field day at taxpayers expense, don't you figure they would have already found away around those peons that object? Everyone knows corporations like nothing more than to be taxed into oblivion and then be subject to a litigious HELL for any screwup.
Tell me again who doesn't understand these important ideals you just laid out?? I'd like you to put up or shut the hell up, and personally boycott all of these "corporations". Don't EVER take pharmaceuticals again, or drive a car, or buy groceries. Also, no more Internet or computers for you, chances are your provider is a "corporation making profit at the expense of the people". Shouldn't the man who wrote the OS profit from his labor??
You talk down to anyone thinking of questioning your pet candidate, Lecture us over these high ideals like history and capitalism, and the very essence of these elude you. What the hell is the point of innovation if theres no f*#$ing reward to ones work??!!
Hard work and prospering because of it are what makes America great, If you can't grasp this concept of freedom , go back to your mother's basement and hit the ol' bong til' it comes to you. Legal pot seems to be Paul's biggest selling point anyway...
Ah, an excellent example of what I was talking about.
Im not quite sure what youre trying to argue, since I am a capitalist, but let me try to explain probably the most fundamental difference between capitalism and corporatism is, since it is clear you lack knowledge in that arena.
The man who wrote the OS should certainly profit from his labor. What he shouldnt be allowed to do is use the government to prevent other people from writing OSs so that he essentially has a monopoly on code writing (or making OSs). Pharmaceutical companies are a fine example of this.
Want to know why drug prices are so high? No, its not because of capitalism or lack of government involvement. It is because of corporatism and excessive government involvement. When pharmaceutical companies lobby and get laws passed that says you cant import drugs from other places, what do you think is going to happen?
As capitalism essentially predicts, when there is no competition (because its been made illegal through corporate lobbying), prices are going to go up, and services will degrade. While the pharmaceutical companies benefit, the people, who have no option except to break the law or accept the prices, lose. The mystical corporations that are having a field day at the taxpayers expense already HAVE found a way around those who object. They get laws passed in their favor, through lobbying. You dont like being subjected to the essential monopolies that pharmaceutical companies have in this country because of the government? What are you going to do about it BigJake? Break the law and get your drugs from Canada?
Now let me explain the difference between a capitalist and corporatist society, since you dont quite get it.
In a capitalist society, a company will make drugs, and they will benefit from that. Another company will come in since its a lucrative market, make drugs, and they will benefit. There will be competition because the companies want to make money, and this keeps prices down, so the people will benefit.
In a corporatist society, a company will make drugs, and they will benefit from that. But instead of another company competing (which results in lower prices, which is good for the consumer), they get a law passed via the government that says something along the lines of, only this company is allowed to produce drugs. No other companies can legally compete. Now what happens? This company, that now has a government enforced monopoly, can charge as much as they want for their drugs. Since there is no competition, they dont have to keep prices low, and consumers cant go to other companies to get drugs without breaking the law. The company benefits, consumers get hurt.
Do you recognize the difference now, BigJake? People should benefit from their labor, and keep the fruits of their labor. But they shouldnt be able to do it using the government to pass laws preventing competition. In other words, they shouldnt use the law to prevent OTHER PEOPLE from working hard in the same industry, and benefiting from their hard work.
Why you object to that, I dont know. You dont have a stake in pharmaceutical companies, do you? :scratch:
What a load of BS.
Ron Paul got one presidential vote from me back when I was young and dumb.
You assume too much, but then again that is the MO of the RP supporters. They have constructed a little fantasy world where they hold the keys to truth and the rest of us are mind numbed robots. I know plenty about libertarianism, the Libertarian Party and Ron Paul. I weighed him and them in the balances back in '88 after the election and found them lacking.
I should have said, the people who criticize his ideas. But then again, I said, generally speaking, which means it is not universally applicable, so Im still not sure what youre complaining about. There are of course, several people who wouldnt want RP to win. Plenty of people have a lot to lose if he won, and plenty of people have no idea what theyre talking about (who think they do, of course).
First and foremost, Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist, not a libertarian (as some would believe).
