Author Topic: Guys, I want you to take a pledge... (Read 26230 times)

Bogie · « **on:** January 25, 2008, 08:52:42 PM »

If you vote for someone other than a Republican candidate, and Hillary/Obama gets elected, and starts enacting all sorts of draconian gun laws (remember "stroke of the pen, law of the land - kinda cool!"), you will swear to just shut up, because you didn't do anything to stop it when you had the chance.

They may not be all the great, but they're better than the alternative. So, if you write in Ron Paul, or Mickey Mouse, or John Holmes, when the crap starts hitting the fan, I don't want to hear you bitching about how your rights are being trampled upon.

RadioFreeSeaLab · « **Reply #1 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:31:41 PM »

You know, I would, but I don't expect the Republicans to be much better on guns. Who do we have to pick from? Romney? Rudy? Pffft.

Bogie · « **Reply #2 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:40:19 PM »

Ah, but when it boils down, we're not voting for individuals. We're voting for the political machine.

And the Republican political machine is a LOT less likely to do bad things to 2nd amendment rights than the Democratic political machine.

Finch · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:51:16 PM »

Quote from: Bogie on January 25, 2008, 08:40:19 PM

Ah, but when it boils down, we're not voting for individuals. We're voting for the political machine.

And the Republican political machine is a little bit slower to do bad things to 2nd amendment rights than the Democratic political machine.

Fixed it.

Voting for a political machine? HA! Why would I vote for a machine that arbitrarily invades countries and ignores the constitution? A machine that thinks a $600 rebate is the answer to our economic problems? Thanks but no thanks. And no, I will not swear to "shut up" because I am supporting who I believe would be best to FIX this country, not defeat the Democrats. Both the Neo-cons and Democrats are headed to the same end, they are just taking different roads.

SomeKid · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2008, 09:59:18 PM »

In other words, if we do not do our duty to vote for your party, we are just evil little commies, and should keep our rotten mouths shut?

How about this, if your man gets elected, and screws us, you renounce your citizenship, and go live in China?

If you want me to vote for your party man, make your party man acceptable to me. Otherwise, get over it, cause I will not vote for someone who will take away my rights. Regardless of party.

Tecumseh · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2008, 10:27:09 PM »

Quote from: Finch on January 25, 2008, 08:51:16 PM

Quote from: Bogie on January 25, 2008, 08:40:19 PM

Ah, but when it boils down, we're not voting for individuals. We're voting for the political machine.

And the Republican political machine is a little bit slower to do bad things to 2nd amendment rights than the Democratic political machine.

Fixed it.

Voting for a political machine? HA! Why would I vote for a machine that arbitrarily invades countries and ignores the constitution? A machine that thinks a $600 rebate is the answer to our economic problems? Thanks but no thanks. And no, I will not swear to "shut up" because I am supporting who I believe would be best to FIX this country, not defeat the Democrats. Both the Neo-cons and Democrats are headed to the same end, they are just taking different roads.

I agree. However you did not fix his posting. These Republicans that people are talking about voting for will shred the Bill of Rights than Fred Thompson could jam chili dogs down his throat.

This is just another reason to vote for Ron Paul, he is the only GOP candidate that can beat Hillary or Obama. If he is not on the ballot I will still vote for him by writing his name in.

Tecumseh · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2008, 10:28:37 PM »

Quote from: SomeKid on January 25, 2008, 08:59:18 PM

In other words, if we do not do our duty to vote for your party, we are just evil little commies, and should keep our rotten mouths shut?

How about this, if your man gets elected, and screws us, you renounce your citizenship, and go live in China?

If you want me to vote for your party man, make your party man acceptable to me. Otherwise, get over it, cause I will not vote for someone who will take away my rights. Regardless of party.

Excellent post. This is essentially my thoughts. The GOP candidates suck, with the exception of Paul they are all corporate shills who will sell us down the drain for their own selfish desires.

SomeKid · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2008, 11:05:53 PM »

Tecumseh, YOU are voting for Paul?

Manedwolf · « **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2008, 11:07:52 PM »

Quote from: Tecumseh on January 25, 2008, 09:28:37 PM

Quote from: SomeKid on January 25, 2008, 08:59:18 PM

In other words, if we do not do our duty to vote for your party, we are just evil little commies, and should keep our rotten mouths shut?

How about this, if your man gets elected, and screws us, you renounce your citizenship, and go live in China?

If you want me to vote for your party man, make your party man acceptable to me. Otherwise, get over it, cause I will not vote for someone who will take away my rights. Regardless of party.

Excellent post. This is essentially my thoughts. The GOP candidates suck, with the exception of Paul they are all corporate shills who will sell us down the drain for their own selfish desires.

Hare krishnaaaaa ...oops...I mean Ron Paulllll... rolleyes

Finch · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2008, 11:10:42 PM »

Quote from: Manedwolf on January 25, 2008, 10:07:52 PM

Hare krishnaaaaa ...oops...I mean Ron Paulllll... rolleyes

Bursting at the seams with substance.

seeker_two · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2008, 01:39:14 AM »

Bogie: If I end up voting third-party, I WILL be voting to protect our Second Amendment rights...and all our other God-given rights, too.....

Will YOU take a pledge that, if (and when) Guiliani/Romney/Huckabee sign the new AWB or any other right-abridging law passed by a liberal-controlled Congress, you will do a month of mea culpa on this board?

HankB · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2008, 03:00:18 AM »

Quote from: seeker_two on January 26, 2008, 12:39:14 AM

Will YOU take a pledge that, if (and when) Guiliani/Romney/Huckabee sign the new AWB or any other right-abridging law passed by a liberal-controlled Congress, you will do a month of mea culpa on this board?

I'll have to second that, especially if the GOP elects Guiliani or Romney . . . with a GOP president, the GOP congress will meekly go along.

Looking at the leading candidates of BOTH parties, I think we're screwed . . .

K Frame · « **Reply #12 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:14:05 AM »

"In other words, if we do not do our duty to vote for your party, we are just evil little commies, and should keep our rotten mouths shut?"

Yeah, that's about the size of it.

"A machine that thinks a $600 rebate is the answer to our economic problems?"

You know, you are the FIRST person at any level I've seen use the term solution.

No one is claiming that the rebate is a solution to the economy. It's one of a NUMBER of tools/actions that, when all put together, hopefully will help stabilize the economy.

Where did you come up with the idea that it's a solution?

K Frame · « **Reply #13 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:18:51 AM »

This thread looks like it could tip.

I'm going to say this in advance.

Keep your emotions in check when you post.

If you haven't noticed, there have been quite a few locked threads over the past couple of days, and it's getting to the point where we're going to start locking posters, not just threads.

seeker_two · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:23:09 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 26, 2008, 03:18:51 AM

This thread looks like it could tip.

I'm going to say this in advance.

Keep your emotions in check when you post.

If you haven't noticed, there have been quite a few locked threads over the past couple of days, and it's getting to the point where we're going to start locking posters, not just threads.

In other words, don't make Lil' Baby Jesus cry.....or Mike will get you..... Wink

K Frame · « **Reply #15 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:44:56 AM »

When Lil' Baby Jesus cries, I kill a puppy's owner.

Dntsycnt · « **Reply #16 on:** January 26, 2008, 04:48:15 AM »

We're all voting for who we think is best, which is kinda the idea, so I don't think it's fair for anybody to say others should bend over and take it for doing so.

Except maybe those who would vote for Guliani, cause c'mon folks...

Antibubba · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2008, 06:53:45 AM »

Tecumseh said:

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This is just another reason to vote for Ron Paul, he is the only GOP candidate that can beat Hillary or Obama. If he is not on the ballot I will still vote for him by writing his name in.

When Paul starts beating Giuliani in the primaries, then I'll be willing to say he has more than a snowball's chance to get the nomination. But win the Presidency? No. Frickin'. Way. Actually, I take that back--he doesn't have a chance at even the Republican nomination--Paul's views on limited government are as much a threat to the GOP's largesse as they are to the Democrats socialist ideas. The War on Terror, The War on Drugs, Homeland Security, these are multibillion dollar industries whose leaders will not allow them to be scaled back or even revealed for the scams that they are. In fact, I'll go so far as to say the GOP would rather lose the Oval office, and thus gain momentum for 2012 with the usual themes, than to back a libertarian who would force them to reconfigure their platform.

The GOP vehicle is broken, but the Republicans would rather have a broken-down Hummer than a running Focus.

And I'm not sure America as a whole is ready for libertarian reform.

All that being said, I'd vote for him. Not that I think he could fix America, but because only then would Americans wake up to see how far we've strayed from the ideals that started this country.

geronimotwo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 26, 2008, 07:55:41 AM »

Quote from: Finch on January 25, 2008, 08:51:16 PM

Both the Neo-cons and Democrats are headed to the same end, they are just taking different ~~roads~~ sides of the same road.

fixed it

El Tejon · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2008, 08:00:57 AM »

Wow, I take a pledge not to mock Ron Paul voters on THR and suddenly everyone wants in on the act.

bogie, I like your proposed pledge. grin

Tallpine · « **Reply #20 on:** January 26, 2008, 08:06:33 AM »

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When Paul starts beating Giuliani in the primaries, then I'll be willing to say he has more than a snowball's chance to get the nomination.

Actually, he did beat Jailiani in Nevada IIRC laugh

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 26, 2008, 08:10:17 AM »

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Guys, I want you to take a pledge...

It sure is nice to want things, isn't it?

I'll PM you my mailing address for the check if you want to buy my vote, ok?

CAnnoneer · « **Reply #22 on:** January 26, 2008, 08:13:16 AM »

There is no point for me to take the pledge, because I will be voting Republican, even if they run Calligula's horse for president. The Dems are just that bad.

Regarding Paul, as mentioned previously, his primary utility is to stir things up and modify the political discourse at the Primaries level. He is not only non-viable as a general elections candidate, he is downright dangerous, the Ralph Nader way.

Tecumseh, we get it - Thompson is fat. So?

SomeKid · « **Reply #23 on:** January 26, 2008, 08:17:37 AM »

Quote from: Tallpine on January 26, 2008, 07:06:33 AM

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When Paul starts beating Giuliani in the primaries, then I'll be willing to say he has more than a snowball's chance to get the nomination.

Actually, he did beat Jailiani in Nevada IIRC laugh

And a few other states.

Michigan, Iowa, Wyoming, and likely a bunch more soon. So far, only NH and SC have gone for Rudy of Ron.

K Frame · « **Reply #24 on:** January 26, 2008, 08:44:22 AM »

Well, Caligula did make Incitatus a Senator, so he probably had as much experience as Hillary or Obama...

News:

Author Topic: Guys, I want you to take a pledge... (Read 26230 times)