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Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« on: February 14, 2008, 12:17:07 PM »
Congratulate the media. They've proven that if a loser wants to go out killing people, they'll become famous and their delusional manifestos will indeed be read.

WHICH IS WHY THIS KEEPS HAPPENING!  angry

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CHICAGO (Reuters) - At least 18 people were shot when a gunman opened fire at Northern Illinois University outside Chicago on Thursday, CNN reported its local affiliate as saying.

It was unclear how serious the injuries were and whether any of the people had died at the college in DeKalb, about 65 miles west of downtown Chicago.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1448844420080214

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 12:20:45 PM »
Fret not.  Barak Obama will soon be our President.   police
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 12:21:43 PM »
It's a good thing you can't bring guns to universities

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 12:31:14 PM »
What gets me is their idea of "precautions"
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"There has been a report of a possible gunman on campus," according to the alert. "Get to a safe area and take precautions until given the all clear.

So what are you supposed to do if they come through the door, if you don't have a gun to stop them with?


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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 12:36:15 PM »
What gets me is their idea of "precautions"
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"There has been a report of a possible gunman on campus," according to the alert. "Get to a safe area and take precautions until given the all clear.

So what are you supposed to do if they come through the door, if you don't have a gun to stop them with?


  Why call the police of course.  They will appear instantly and neutralize the bad guy.   rolleyes

I am so sick of the bullshit in this state in regards to guns and CCW.  The state has a monopoly on force, controls who can and cannot purchase guns, and they treat us like peasants in regards to the thought of us defending ourselves. 

I am terrified as I have quite a few friends at NIU.

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 12:39:56 PM »
I am so sick of the bullshit in this state in regards to guns and CCW.  The state has a monopoly on force, controls who can and cannot LEGALLY purchase guns, and they treat us like peasants in regards to the thought of us defending ourselves. 

One word to further clarify the problem there.

You're unable to defend yourself, while every nutball and gangsta is free to buy a serials-filed piece in a back alley and go driveby/rampage with it.

"gun-free zone"...

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 12:53:37 PM »
What gets me is their idea of "precautions"
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"There has been a report of a possible gunman on campus," according to the alert. "Get to a safe area and take precautions until given the all clear.

So what are you supposed to do if they come through the door, if you don't have a gun to stop them with?


  Why call the police of course.  They will appear instantly and neutralize the bad guy.   rolleyes

I am so sick of the bullshit in this state in regards to guns and CCW.  The state has a monopoly on force, controls who can and cannot purchase guns, and they treat us like peasants in regards to the thought of us defending ourselves. 

I am terrified as I have quite a few friends at NIU.

Take note aps; for the first and perhaps only time, Tec and I are in complete agreement.

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 01:14:50 PM »
Don't worry about these mass shootings, folks.  It's only the patriots revolting against tyranny.   rolleyes

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 01:30:14 PM »
Don't worry about these mass shootings, folks.  It's only the patriots revolting against tyranny.   rolleyes

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I am so sick of the bullshit in this state in regards to guns and CCW.  The state has a monopoly on force, controls who can and cannot purchase guns, and they treat us like peasants in regards to the thought of us defending ourselves.

Genius isn't it? Every incident that occurs because people can't defend themselves gives the state even more propaganda to use in it's efforts to disarm the population.

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 01:33:17 PM »
Well, i don't think that's what's happening... but for the sake of argument... eventually, wouldn't it be?

I mean, it wouldn't be random college students though

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 02:09:05 PM »
He had time to stand in the middle of a lecture stage and calmly reload.

Because he knew nobody could shoot back. After all...

...it was a gun-free zone.

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 02:34:24 PM »
The old Fox in the Henhouse Syndrome

yet again...  rolleyes
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 04:24:26 AM »
I just don't understand the "deer in headlights" reaction...From LA Times:

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Desiree Smith, 21, was taking notes on continental drift when out of the corner of her eye she saw a figure in a black ski cap step onto the stage, beside the instructor.

"He was holding this huge gun," she said. "I couldn't even process it. He stood there with the gun pointing down, almost like an action-movie poster -- that's what he looked like for a second. Then he lifted it up and shot at my teacher."

Smith dropped to the ground. Under the chair, she locked eyes with another student. They stared at one another in terrified stillness. Then the other student began to move. Afraid of being left alone, Smith followed her, clambering on elbows and knees up the aisle.

"I could feel people bumping me, crawling over me. Everyone was pushing, clawing at the ground, trying to get out as soon as possible," Smith said.

A few days ago, late at night, high winds tipped over my aluminum patio set and knocked it against the front door, sounding like someone kicked the door or fell hard against it. (of course, I didn't know that's what it was!) Almost faster than conscious thought, as a first reaction, I had my SIG in hand out of the drawer, just like that.

Why did I turn out differently that that's my reaction to a threat, instead?

Oh, and yes, of course, the leftists are already starting to bleat to "take guns out of the hands of private citizens, only the police should have them"...

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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2008, 01:17:15 PM »
Did anyone else catch the NIU Pres's statement that "We had a plan in place to prevent just such an incident, and it worked.  Our police department reacted swiftly ...."  [heard on CNN some time this AM between 10 & 11 AM]

So they had a freakin' plan in place to actually PREVENT just such an incident.

And the freakin' plan WORKED.

If that's the case, I'd hate to see the plan they have in place to prevent the spread of influenza.  It would probably make 1919 seem pake in comparison.

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2008, 03:35:03 PM »
I saw the chief of the campus police on TV talking about how amazing the the response by his people was. Dude, amazing would be if you could have prevented it!

I just heard that governor Blowyavitch declared a "state of emergency" at NIU. rolleyes
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2008, 04:31:36 PM »
Emergency is over. Now it's a "state of hazmat cleanup."

They showed some images of the kirkwood city hall on the news the other night - they already had crews in putting up fresh drywall...
 
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2008, 05:20:24 PM »
I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.   I have not heard anything mentioned about this fact.

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2008, 05:35:48 PM »
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I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.

I believe he was a whackjob.  rolleyes
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2008, 05:39:04 PM »
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I will agree with you IF you get caught you can only be expelled from college.  
Some places though, if you get caught on campus with a firearm it is prison time.  You don't want that.

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2008, 06:49:30 PM »
I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.   I have not heard anything mentioned about this fact.

Why is that important?
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 07:35:14 PM »
I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.   I have not heard anything mentioned about this fact.


I think what you're wanting to know is the killer's motivation.  Which may not be the same as his religion. 

Or you could just ask if he was an Islamic terrorist.


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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2008, 04:50:31 AM »
From what the news is babbling about, it seems like it was what needs to be investigated, "What happens when people suddenly go off under-researched psychoreactive medications".

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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2008, 04:52:33 PM »
I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.   I have not heard anything mentioned about this fact.
  Christian is my guess.  THis is based on his name, complexion, and other characteristics including his picture. 

What does it matter? 

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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2008, 05:44:23 PM »
I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.   I have not heard anything mentioned about this fact.
  Christian is my guess.  THis is based on his name, complexion, and other characteristics including his picture. 

What does it matter? 

Careful, you're profiling using stereotypes.  grin

And you're almost certainly correct, and it doesn't matter.
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Re: Annnd yet another classroom rampage near Chicago... 18 people.
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2008, 07:51:02 PM »
I am just wondering what religion the shooter was.   I have not heard anything mentioned about this fact.
  Christian is my guess.  THis is based on his name, complexion, and other characteristics including his picture. 


OK, I get the name thing, but how could someone's complexion or appearance indicate Christianity? 
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